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Old 07-04-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: 1k HU common tough spot

I would lead 360 or so and shove a lot of rivers

I think crai sucks a these stacks and it will be gross if he thinks he priced himself onin w oesd+pair

Checking is ok too cuz he checks behind a lot
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:34 AM
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Why would he bet J9? And stacks are perfect for CR, don't understand your comment - it will be a pot-sized push.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:01 PM
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Why would he bet J9? And stacks are perfect for CR, don't understand your comment - it will be a pot-sized push.

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Promise you he bets j9 a lot- hu 3 bet pots play a lot diff than in a 6max game bc ranges are a lot wider on both sides and ppl balance and play more w shania in consideration
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: 1k HU common tough spot

I play plenty of HU, don't worry, I'm not coming at it from a 6m perspective. But his flat call on the flop looks like he wants to play for pot control. So it wouldn't be consistent to all of a sudden decide to go nuts with J9 on the turn. If he wanted to play a big pot with J9, the time was on the flop, not on that turn.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:15 PM
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Why would he bet J9? And stacks are perfect for CR, don't understand your comment - it will be a pot-sized push.

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Promise you he bets j9 a lot- hu 3 bet pots play a lot diff than in a 6max game bc ranges are a lot wider on both sides and ppl balance and play more w shania in consideration

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I'm with TWP--crai is my preferred line. (though I agree that many/most will bet J9, or any J, and often call a shove). Yes, there are plenty of opponents who won't fold TP here to a crai, but virtually everyone will shove a draw over us if we bet, precisely because the stacks are just about perfect for it. Checking means he checks behind some hands that would push us off/make us make a gross call, and I agree that some will bet/fold one pair.

But also, IMO you really want him to reliably bet/call off his whole stack here with Jx in general, so getting it in as a 3:1 or 2:1 dog this time is not a huge deal.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: 1k HU common tough spot

thats a fair point- and im pro not being as detailed as i wojld like posting from my phone but...

This board is super drawy, and as you said yourself, you are almost always betting vulnerable 1pr hands again. So i think if u crai it looks a lot like what it is and if he decides to bet w any decent hands i think hes never folding. Not too mention when he has a really strong hand. Unless you think hes just floating every time- in which case 2nd b works as well and gives u more options and imo is better against his rAnge- i think crai sucks
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:25 PM
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Wanted to add that I think checking is perfectly fine and may be best plan but that IMO 2nd/3rd barrel>>>crai
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:27 PM
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also cero-

Against typical 5/10 opponents I don't think we need to get it in here bad ever to insure action on future hands
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: 1k HU common tough spot

snipes, how do you play AJ/AT here as villain? I think I'll often call flop and then either check or bet/fold turn.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:35 PM
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snipes, how do you play AJ/AT here as villain? I think I'll often call flop and then either check or bet/fold turn.

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I prob fire and check a similar amount
ur never too upset getting free card w/ AT or keeping pot smallish w AJ and can crai if he bets

Folding an 8-10 outer is also not the end of the world
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