NL50 Are these flop shoves any good?

[Bonesy]

For all of you saying fold hand 3, what are you putting villain on here with his stats? I think combo draws and TP hands are a big part of his range. Also, I don't agree that pushing flop only gets called by stronger hands. This villain probably calls with all his draws and TP hands too.

[calmB4storm]

*grunch*
Hand 1: I don' t like it. If we were sure to have 8 clean outs then I think this would be ok, but the flush draw plus the straight possibility make me fold this.

Hand 2: Looks fine. Possibly ahead right now, and the nut flush draw is good insurance.

Hand 3: Yeah, I think this is good versus the short stack. If the SB was deeper, I might just call and re-evaluate on the turn.

[calmB4storm]

Just looked at the replies.
They're right, don't fold Hand 1.
I didn't think about how passive villain was, meaning likely no flush draw.

[eternal_]

You shove hand 1 because you have FE but villain isn't deep enough.

[Panic__NL]

Ok after a few comments, I like to give my opinion. I reviewed the hands and used pokerstove to find out how I was doing against villians range.

Hand 1, I dont like my push here, I am flipping against his range and like a call reevaluate beter.

Hand 2 standard as standard can be, to bad if Villian has flopped a flush, I still got outs.

Hand 3 with an A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] this would be standard, but I like a fold here better in a 3way pot. I just fell in love with my aces and that is a bad thing.

[Check_The_Nuts]

honestly I hate hand 1 and think that flop is a check/fold.

hand 3 I like the push more than hand 2 just because I think the guy in hand 2 will double barrell the turn wayyyyy to often when he's bluffing.

I like hand 3 because these guys call all in with stupid crap and tend to bet out with mediocre hands like TPNK etc. then go broke when you push, especially if they have a pair+any draw.

I realize hand 2 and hand 3 analysis kind of contradict each other. But in hand 2 you don't care if a diamond comes off so IMO your hand is strong enough to call where in hand 3 your sometimes folding the best hand on the turn if he bluffs it so I'd prefer to just get it in on the flop.