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Old 06-29-2007, 12:43 AM
8Adam8 8Adam8 is offline
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Default Re: Possible to fold KK here?

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Old 06-29-2007, 10:49 AM
JoeyJoJo Shabadu JoeyJoJo Shabadu is offline
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Default Re: Possible to fold KK here?

Can't fold. Good thing is it doesn't bust you.

How is shoving with AA over the top of someone that told you they really want to play that hand "a donk move"?
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: Possible to fold KK here?

99% of the time call, but I do think that you have to at least cosnider whetehr you need to fold any hand but AA pre-flop.

a) villian is really tight
b) villian has shown a real reluctance to get involved with the other big stacks

your table image is fairly important here too, what does the villian think your re-raise means? If you've been doing that alot with marginal hands then I'd say definitely call, if you've only re-raised once or twice and only with good hands, I might consider folding.

Also, whats been happening at the table? Have you been able to steal lots of pots based on your stack? Do you feel like you are the better player here?

WHat kind of stakes are you playing? Is it quite high stakes?

How did the other guy get his stack - a few lucky coinflips or some good play over time.

Only if 100% of these factors indicate folding would i consider it, but here where you'll still have a big stack if you lose, I call.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Possible to fold KK here?

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NO.

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Note the one word answers. That's how simple this is.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:29 AM
JammyDodga JammyDodga is offline
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Default Re: Possible to fold KK here?

Hmm, perhaps you are right, but I think doing anything for half your stack without thinking is a bad habit to get into.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Possible to fold KK here?

This is better than most KK posts, at least you and villain are over 100 BBs deep, so it's the point where you should start thinking about having to make folds that you're usually to short to be able to consider. However, folding KK here is not one of those situations.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Possible to fold KK here?

KK is something you have thought about and decided long before you even boot up your computer
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Possible to fold KK here?

I just don't see how you can be good many times in this spot. You limp / reraise UTG indicating you have a superstrong hand, then he puts in a 3rd raise for his whole stack. Can't basically the only hands he can have in this spot KK+?

Even if he has AKs you're 30% to lose. With over 150big blinds left I think you can find a better spot for half your chips than a 55-60% favorite. (75% of the time he flips over AK and the other 15ish% he shows you aces, while another 10% you get shown QQ,KK))
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:09 PM
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I think you can find a better spot for half your chips than a 55-60% favorite.

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Do this all day, every day for the rest of your life and you will have all the money ... no one else, anywhere, will have any, none, nada, you'll have it all.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:13 PM
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Never ever fold KK in a $10 online donkament.
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