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Old 06-27-2007, 02:54 PM
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38% if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:59 PM
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Hand 1 looks fine to me.

Hand 2 is a spew. Assuming your heart outs are good, you need 2-1 to call on the hand, and you aren't getting that. I'm assuming your 9 or 7 outs are not good.

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2-1? to call a shove with a flush draw?

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On the flop, yes. You're 2-1 to hit one of your 9 outs on the turn or river. I don't know exact percentages, but I think it's about 35% chance your flush comes in with 2 cards to come.

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That hand looks like it easily could be a higher FD which you are toast against.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:00 PM
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Hand 1 looks fine to me.

Hand 2 is a spew. Assuming your heart outs are good, you need 2-1 to call on the hand, and you aren't getting that. I'm assuming your 9 or 7 outs are not good.

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2-1? to call a shove with a flush draw?

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On the flop, yes. You're 2-1 to hit one of your 9 outs on the turn or river. I don't know exact percentages, but I think it's about 35% chance your flush comes in with 2 cards to come.

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I always look to have 3-1 on the flop for a flush draw. Am I a moron?

I mean how often can you count on having a pure flush draw, i.e. not up against bigger flush draw, boat doesn't hit on a redraw, no heart in villians hand... etc.

I'm I too tight to fold unless close to 3-1 with a flush draw?
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:08 PM
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Yeah...musta been flush tilting. I'm still tilting...God, just made a terrible all-in call down with JJ...geez, I look at their stats, and they're terrible...but I keep falling for the same tricks.

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it doesn't matter how terrible someone is when calling allin with a draw you have 9 high and incorrect odds to call with a small flush draw. I think you know this is terrible, howcomes you posted that hand? Seems like you wanted to get flamed or something?
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:08 PM
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AJs fine.

97s fold.

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Old 06-27-2007, 03:09 PM
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Yeah...musta been flush tilting. I'm still tilting...God, just made a terrible all-in call down with JJ...geez, I look at their stats, and they're terrible...but I keep falling for the same tricks.

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it doesn't matter how terrible someone is when calling allin with a draw you have 9 high and incorrect odds to call with a small flush draw. I think you know this is terrible, howcomes you posted that hand? Seems like you wanted to get flamed or something?

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No no. You never forget how to play ABC poker?
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Standard spots?

1 standard

2 is a pretty bad spew. youre seeing pairs and higher flush draws so youre just wrecked and not getting the odds.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:11 PM
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Ok, we can lock the thread. I understand. I think everyone else does too. Thank you.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:20 PM
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wtf @ hand 2???

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Old 06-27-2007, 03:56 PM
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AJs fine.

97s fold.

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