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06-21-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: Building a BR through MTT\'s
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I wouldn't be surprised if a standard downswing was 40ish buyins at all. [/ QUOTE ] Seriously? This can't be right at all. Sure for regular MTT turbos. But we are talking about 45 man turbos. A 100% ROI is very attainable at these IMO. Remember that Risk of Ruin takes into account how good you are. That means if you are good (your mean win is higher) you don't have to worry about variance as much. Anyway, to the OP, yes people do play the sats for $T. It's pretty standard. 
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#12
06-21-2007, 05:08 PM
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Re: Building a BR through MTT\'s
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[ QUOTE ] I wouldn't be surprised if a standard downswing was 40ish buyins at all. [/ QUOTE ] Seriously? This can't be right at all. Sure for regular MTT turbos. But we are talking about 45 man turbos. A 100% ROI is very attainable at these IMO. Remember that Risk of Ruin takes into account how good you are. That means if you are good (your mean win is higher) you don't have to worry about variance as much. Anyway, to the OP, yes people do play the sats for $T. It's pretty standard. [/ QUOTE ] yea..... At those things? If you have idea what are your doing, then i don't see how you could have more then a 15 buyin downswing at the 1.20s 45 persons.
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#13
06-21-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: Building a BR through MTT\'s
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I wouldn't be surprised if a standard downswing was 40ish buyins at all. [/ QUOTE ] Seriously? This can't be right at all. Sure for regular MTT turbos. But we are talking about 45 man turbos. A 100% ROI is very attainable at these IMO. Remember that Risk of Ruin takes into account how good you are. That means if you are good (your mean win is higher) you don't have to worry about variance as much. Anyway, to the OP, yes people do play the sats for $T. It's pretty standard. [/ QUOTE ] yea..... At those things? If you have idea what are your doing, then i don't see how you could have more then a 15 buyin downswing at the 1.20s 45 persons. [/ QUOTE ] The high buyin downswing potential is at the turbo 45 persons... The regular speed ones (like the 1.20's) have much less variance, and are way easier to keep your ROI positive...
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#14
06-21-2007, 05:17 PM
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Re: Building a BR through MTT\'s
A 40 buy-in downswing would not surprise me at all. I don't think it's "standard" but it obviously could happen to a good player. 30 buy-in downswings are not uncommon at 1-table SNGs. These are higher variance right?
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#15
06-21-2007, 05:23 PM
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Re: Building a BR through MTT\'s
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[ QUOTE ] I wouldn't be surprised if a standard downswing was 40ish buyins at all. [/ QUOTE ] Seriously? This can't be right at all. Sure for regular MTT turbos. But we are talking about 45 man turbos. A 100% ROI is very attainable at these IMO. Remember that Risk of Ruin takes into account how good you are. That means if you are good (your mean win is higher) you don't have to worry about variance as much. Anyway, to the OP, yes people do play the sats for $T. It's pretty standard. [/ QUOTE ] 20 buyin downswings are super common at the single table turbos even playing really good, these are not small mtts these are large sngs and there is more variance then the single tables.
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#16
06-21-2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: Building a BR through MTT\'s
there aren't many of them but the 5.5Rs and 6Rs satellites are so incredibly soft. once you have a few more bucks you can play the 11Rs that run all the time for the million and the warm up.
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#17
06-21-2007, 06:03 PM
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Re: Building a BR through MTT\'s
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[ QUOTE ] I'd like more than 150 for the 3.25/45 Granted, I have 200 in my BR and have been grinding out 1.20/45 and somehow beating the rake. [/ QUOTE ] The play in the 1.20s is so bad you can actually beat the rake, I'd just hate paying a 20% rake. Also, if you are pretty good, a think getting by on a $150 BR shouldn't be a problem at the 3/45s. The play is just horrendous. [/ QUOTE ] There are $1.10 45-man turbos on Stars so you don't have to play that 20% rake - I find these pretty beatable even moreso than the $3.25s so good place to start.
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#19
06-21-2007, 08:27 PM
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Re: Building a BR through MTT\'s
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A really large downswing is still entirely possible. More than possible; probable. In the 1.10 you end up with about 18 people left with 1200 blinds half the time. [/ QUOTE ] grinding out the 1.20s when there are 1.10s around seems crazy. remember, we don't just care about roi, but also $/hr. regs have twice as much rake, and probably take almost twice as long on average. also, as long as you have a good enough br, you shouldn't care about variance. to the OP, if you don't think you have the br to run 3.25s, i would suggest grinding the 1.10 turbos, at least at first to get a feel for the structure and the level of competition (not very high)
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