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Old 06-18-2007, 06:15 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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It's good to see that the voters almost unilaterily are disgusted with the US foreign policy. This means that people are starting to come to the realization that what the state does actually has almost nothing to do with defense and defending the people; but that it accomplishes quite the opposite.

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So from the results of 44 votes cast on the 2p2 Politics Forum (a representative cohort of the American populace if there ever was one), we can extrapolate that American voters are now unilaterally [..]

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I am talking about the voters in this poll, silly.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:15 PM
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I'm in the Blowback group and while intervetionalist foreign policy has been predominant this century, it is possible to do it right. Carter, Bush 41 and Clinton were all good at doing intervention smartly: sparingly and in line with global moral standards.

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Do what right, exactly?
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:24 PM
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I'm in the Blowback group and while intervetionalist foreign policy has been predominant this century, it is possible to do it right. Carter, Bush 41 and Clinton were all good at doing intervention smartly: sparingly and in line with global moral standards.

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Let's invade the netherlands next and take their drugs.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:35 PM
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I'm in the Blowback group and while intervetionalist foreign policy has been predominant this century, it is possible to do it right. Carter, Bush 41 and Clinton were all good at doing intervention smartly: sparingly and in line with global moral standards.

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Let's invade the netherlands next and take their drugs.

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Or better yet force them to start using ours at inflated prices :0)
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:43 PM
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I think once we have 100 we'll have an accurate picture of how America feels.

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This has to be a joke. The 2+2 politics forum isn't the least bit representative of the American political landscape.
You could get 5,000 votes and it wouldn't be representative of squat.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:47 PM
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Do what right, exactly?

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Your cynicism and skepticism are well received. This is indeed a very good question. I just wish you'd lay off of the 9/11 conspiracy crack pipe.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:53 PM
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I think once we have 100 we'll have an accurate picture of how America feels.

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This has to be a joke. The 2+2 politics forum isn't the least bit representative of the American political landscape.
You could get 5,000 votes and it wouldn't be representative of squat.

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Leveling-v- see above

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Old 06-18-2007, 10:33 PM
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Ok,

It's good to see that the voters almost unilaterily are disgusted with the US foreign policy. This means that people are starting to come to the realization that what the state does actually has almost nothing to do with defense and defending the people; but that it accomplishes quite the opposite.

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Only if by "the people" you mean the people in these forums. Please. Don't be fooled so easily.

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I would have expected a little more on the MIHOP side,

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I'm with you here, but I wouldn't vote it to be 100% sure, not nearly close to 100%. Maybe 70%.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:59 PM
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Ok,

It's good to see that the voters almost unilaterily are disgusted with the US foreign policy. This means that people are starting to come to the realization that what the state does actually has almost nothing to do with defense and defending the people; but that it accomplishes quite the opposite.

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People on this forum have been against Bush's foreign policy for a long time.

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I would have expected a little more on the MIHOP side, but MIHOP and LIHOP don't really matter in how we judge the state; because in both cases we understand that the state is lying through it's teeth when it claims to protect people, when in reality they do the exact opposite.

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The exact opposite? So they're bombing America? And please explain to me how no terrorist attacks in four years, despite the US's inflammatory foreign policies, is doing the "exact opposite" of protecting us??

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Understanding WHY it does the opposite of what it claims and how the incentives of a monopoly and of special interests work is important, I would say.

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I would say that's a bit of a stretch. Aren't you in Holland? There's another data point for you. Please explain to me how evil Dutch government monopoly is putting Dutch citizens in harms way. Thanks.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:43 PM
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I think once we have 100 we'll have an accurate picture of how America feels.

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This has to be a joke. The 2+2 politics forum isn't the least bit representative of the American political landscape.
You could get 5,000 votes and it wouldn't be representative of squat.

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You are obviously much smarter than us.
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