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Old 06-16-2007, 03:28 PM
Chomp Chomp is offline
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Default Re: Top 2 pair on draw heavy board ($50nl)

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Everyone seems to like the line of 3-bet. Why not just flat call?

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I think it is because a 3b is the best value line with a hand that is ahead of villain's range now but which has bad reverse implied odds.

Another way to say this is that villain will call now with a lot of worse hands, but these hands are more likely to improve later than ours is, so our equity is at it's height on the flop. Hence, get the value in now.

Finally, we 3b as it might induce him to push over us with draws.

That's my understanding anyway - open to correction.
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair on draw heavy board ($50nl)

seems legit i dont see how a large 3bet 'induces' a shove...
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:33 PM
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seems legit i dont see how a large 3bet 'induces' a shove...

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Er, villain says to himself "Screw it, I have an open ender with lots of dead money, let's go".

No?
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair on draw heavy board ($50nl)

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I prob make it like $28-$30 and instacall a push

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Why not just shove???? A raise to $30 will leave only about $20 behind and a $60+ pot...I think if villain will call a raise he'll call a shove with the same range????

What kinda range can we put on villain here??? Villain is 21/17(apparently a solid winner) limped behind PF and is raising a draw heavy board...
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Old 06-16-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair on draw heavy board ($50nl)

well in the actual hand i 3 bet to 18 and he shoved i called, and he showed me ak.... woooo i love limpers
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