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Old 06-16-2007, 05:50 PM
Phil153 Phil153 is offline
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Default Re: From Veggies to Meat: Man-Apes become Human

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Most of what we now consider to be human has resulted from the taste for meat developing in this man-ape creature.

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That's a confident statement.

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Hunting for meat requires hunting in groups, which in turn requires better communication between individuals, which in turn requires better tools and weapons, which in turn requires newer forms of social organization, all of which leads to greater intellectual sophistication.

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Are dogs smarter than horses?

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This greater intellectual sophistication has led this newly evolving species into the development of a much larger brain with the sophisticated reasoning ability of the modern human. Meat eating has made humans of us.

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Another very confident statement.

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“Man developed away from the apes precisely because he had to hunt meat; and if you want to hunt meat you cannot afford yourself the luxury of baboon behavior.”

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What about orang-utan behavior? Hyena behavior? Why are human social bonds very similar to orang-utans and very unlike hyenas?

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As a result of our carnivorous appetite we have developed non-primate social relations; we now regulate sexual behavior and develop families requiring new social harmonies.

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We do? Is the author aware that orang-utans have family structures as well? Almost identical to our own, in fact, as well as complex social behaviour. This guy loves to make confident statements.

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We now acquire our recognition from others not based upon what we take but from what we give.

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What?

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“Unlike the baboon who gluts himself only on food, man nourishes himself mostly on self-esteem

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I guess this guy needs do an anthropological study on McDonalds. When was the last time you saw a fat babboon glutting himself on food? Humans are very social, true, but so are other vegetarian apes and lemurs. I don't see the meat connection.

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We are now beginning to comprehend the fact that humans are primarily unique because wo/man is a total celebration of itself in distinctive self-expression.

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wo/man?
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Old 06-16-2007, 06:03 PM
tolbiny tolbiny is offline
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Default Re: From Veggies to Meat: Man-Apes become Human

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That is so wrong, it's hard to pick a starting point.
If it were written 1924, that'd be understandable,but it wasn't and this is 2007., shouldn't some of his imaginative claims coincide with the facts now available to make it of value today?
Becker is a good example of what happens with a humanities mindset with post-modernist tendencies wanders into scientific fields.
I'd like to find a note tucked away in his safety deposit box that he was Sokaling us.

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Ernest Becker won the Pulitzer Prize for Nonfiction and was a distinguished social theorist, and a teacher of anthropology, sociology, and social psychology.

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Perhaps then he needs to study ape behavior before contrasting them to humans. Both Chimpanzees and Baboons hunt (and hunt in packs and have social structures relating to the distribution of food and roles played within hunts) and kill and eat meat.
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:29 PM
PairTheBoard PairTheBoard is offline
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Default Re: From Veggies to Meat: Man-Apes become Human

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I'd like to find a note tucked away in his safety deposit box that he was Sokaling us.


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What does "Sokaling" mean? I've never heard the word before. It's not even in the Urban Dictionary. Where does the word come from? I see it is getting used a little.

PairTheBoard

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here

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Thanks. You people do realize though that the term has now officially lost its Cool due to the fact that it has finally got around to being heard by me.

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