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Old 06-15-2007, 12:54 AM
PattdownManiac PattdownManiac is offline
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

I think you are trying to pwn a donk on the bubble.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

Wait, there's one guy with 60 and you're willing to donk all your chips off with 7-2? Obviously he's going out soon so if this play backfires, you go into 3 handed without the chiplead.

I don't mind the steal attempt or even the continuation bet but after the call you gotta give it up imo. Given the situation and stacks.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

i tried this exact same crap today. some guy called me down with pocket kings, trapped me royally, and some other guy with like 300 chips walked ITM
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Old 06-15-2007, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

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I think you are trying to pwn a donk on the bubble.

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As much as I think that Patdownmaniac is a pretentious idiot, I have to agree. I dont think his action suggests he'll fold meaning its kind of spew with no FE and perhaps no outs when called despite him being a retard.
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Old 06-15-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

grunch...

i tink if you're going to raise jsut push no?...or fold.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:22 AM
scorpion_nz scorpion_nz is offline
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

Just push the flop. He can't call, even with AK.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

Come on, vilain can call a lot if he thinks he beats at least SB and has a descent chance to beat SG. He does not even need a K, imo. Any PP > TT will do, 2 pairs hands , ...
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

I didn't realize SB was all-in, though I still don't think villain's calling range is that wide. He might call with a set or 2-pair, but I think he's going to throw away much of what beats us.
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

He knows to bubble the all-in player has to beat both of you, and you have to beat him.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: (16) bubble hand- have i lost my mind?

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Just push the flop. He can't call, even with AK.

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he will. and he probably should. he has to lose to 2 players, plus he is a donk


id probably just fold preflop. if u run the math its like 165 in free chips plus 190 chips you are going to win not very often because 72o is what like 35% vs his random range? so its 165 + 190 * .35 = not a big enough number for a t600 raise. minraise if anything. my numbers might be off but i think they are close

id be done on the turn for sure. this hand is way different if SB wasnt allin
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