poll : Sklansky's Brandi behaviour hurting UIGEA repeal ?

[metsandfinsfan]

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There is a very serious aspect of Sklansky's involvment in the Brandi Affair that I think some of you have picked up on.

Namely, that one of the most educated, respected, well-known, visible, and outspoken champions of poker involving himself so personally in an i-broadcast of the scummy sordid cesspool of duplicitous personal warfare that is the Brandi Affair might be damaging the chances for repeal of the UIGEA.

For internet poker to become truly legal in the U.S. the last thing we need is its opponents using Brandi, Franklin, Newhouse, Chantal, and Sklansky's questionable behaviour as a litmus test for the toxicity of the poker waters and whether America's children should be exposed to and endangered by such people. ( Yes, this is exactly how internet gaming's opponents think about the world ).

Sklansky's has made and continues to make enormous errors of judgement in involving himself personally in this matter.

Don't you get it Sklansky ? You are in many ways the image of poker. We expect better of you. Even if you intend well, you are expected and need to be far more savvy politically than this.

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ban plz kthxbai

[DING-DONG YO]

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What has this got to do with the UIGEA?

Answer: brilliant poker minds that should be dedicating their time to fighting UIGEA are instead reading NVG Brandi-Sklansky drama.

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FYP

[kemystery]

[selurah]

Wow just when I think the threads can't get anymore retarded on here..... OP you suck.

[MicroBob]

Don't the majority of the people mentioned not even play very much on the internet?

I think all this inappropriate behavior is more likely to lead to the closing of all live poker-rooms, tournaments and B&M casinos.
That's where a lot of this stuff is happening anyway.

Clearly congress needs to do something about it.

[derek luv]

Everybody knows Congress reads 2+2 daily, of course it hurts it!

[PokrLikeItsProse]

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For internet poker to become truly legal in the U.S. the last thing we need is its opponents using Brandi, Franklin, Newhouse, Chantal, and Sklansky's questionable behaviour as a litmus test for the toxicity of the poker waters and whether America's children should be exposed to and endangered by such people. ( Yes, this is exactly how internet gaming's opponents think about the world ).


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Why do we need them when we have Dutch Boyd? Online just means that your 21-year-old daughter can play with David Sklansky without being subjected to his leering eye.

[[Phill]]

I wont touch on the OP, its been well and truly destroyed.

But, UIGEA wont be repealed under the current president, and likely not under the next one's first term.

Fwiw, UIGEA never actually made internet poker illegal, its always been considered that way by the Dept of 'Justice' - it simply updated the current law to help enforcement.

Also what i found most worrying for you guys was when i was chatting with Lee Jones in our local casino when the subject came up and mentioned the WTO's Antigua ruling - he basically said that the WTO has no powers of enforcement and as long as the wheels of the US Government want internet poker to be banned there is nothing that will be done simply because there isnt enough lobbying power to counter the religious lobbyists (im sure i paraphrase a fair bit but thats what i took from the convo).

He also said that the online poker wont be going away - i didnt push him because it was a friendly convo over a card table not an interview, but i took that to mean Stars at least were 100% committed for the future - again, not an official quote.

The general impression i got was that it was a hopeless fight right now, but in the long term will be turned around - its just that we are looking at years from now, not months.

[malo]

Guess I am in the minority here.

For 30+ years, I have lived (unfortunately) in a Bible Belt city. The Bible-thumpers have very wide definitions of "immorality" and "sexual impropriety." And what they are capable of doing when they think they perceive such misbehavior is quite astonishing. If I had not lived here and seen it, I would not believe it. If you have resided most of your life in an area that is far more progressive about personal morality, it can be difficult to comprehend.

Do I think guys like Kyl, Goodlatte and their minions are aware of what is going on at this point and planning to make it very public? I hope not. But the whole soap opera surrounding Brandi, and now DS' involvement has gone way beyond in-house entertainment for the 2+2 crowd. It's on other forums, being written about in poker blogs (some very widely read.) And the more people who are aware of it, the more likely it is the information will be discovered by people who will use it in support of UIGEA enforcement with teeth.

I want online poker to be legal---or at least excluded from UIGEA enforcement. Like many of you, I've sent letters and emails to my elected officials. I check the Legislation forum daily to see what is going on.

In the past few weeks, it appears there may be some small momentum swinging in our favor. I just don't want anything to come along to derail the process, and am simply concerned that some of DS' public discussion of aspects of his personal life could hurt our modest momentum.

Poker players and gamblers have never been known as candidates for sainthood or even upstanding citizens (although many do live rather normal, mundane, law abiding lives. Unless, of course, you would consider card counting a crime). But you can get away with a hell of a lot if you have the sense to keep it to yourself and not make it public.

That common sense is what I see lacking.

[TimTimSalabim]

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Poker players and gamblers have never been known as candidates for sainthood or even upstanding citizens

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They've probably got a better track record overall than congressmen and priests, though.