1-3 NL

[Chipr777]

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I was in town this afternoon and noticed both the shoe and grand spreading this. I played the 2-5, though.


[/ QUOTE ] The Shoe and Grand have the same mananger now.

[pvn]

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Also keep in mind that there is no cap on the buy-in for NL games in Tunica. So this might make it slightly different from 1/3 NL in other places although my observation has been that the 1/2 can still play pretty small even with no cap on the buy-in.
most players who really want to sit with a big stack just play 2/5 instead (which often plays much bigger than a typical capped buy-in 2/5 NL game imo)

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I think the Grand caps their 1/3 but not the 2/5. I played the 2/5 at both yesterday, and the horseshoe game definitely played bigger. $40 raise was pretty standard PF, and even then 5-way action was not uncommon. The only complaint I had about the horseshoe game is that it is a must-move. That, and the turn card yesterday gave me some serious downside variance. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Chipr777]

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Also keep in mind that there is no cap on the buy-in for NL games in Tunica.

[/ QUOTE ] The 1-2 at Horseshoe always had a $300 cap with a $50 minimum. The 1-3 is $100-$300.

[Don Olney]

Chipr,
1/3 with 1 and 5 chips is just fine. 1/3 may make the game a bit more aggressive at times but for the most part will be about the same as 1/2 for the players. The bb may defend a little more often for two chips instead of three chips for a call of $5.
Out here the Wynn has those dumb $3.00 chips in play ONLY BECAUSE THE 9/18 game could not get going.
It is a pain in the tush when the dealer tells a player "32 chips to call sir" and the darn player brings out the cell phone to get to the calculator to find out how much 32 $3.00 is.......

[ungarop]

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It is a pain in the tush when the dealer tells a player "32 chips to call sir" and the darn player brings out the cell phone to get to the calculator to find out how much 32 $3.00 is.......

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This happened regularly in my last trip to the Wynn.

[tourney guy]

1-3 vs. 1-2 is really a house issue.

If a house rakes the game at 10%, it can get much more drop in a 1-3.

It takes only 2 limpers and a the small blind folding in order to get the 1 dollar dropped in a 1-3.

In a 1-2, it takes 4 limpers and the small bling folding to get the first dollar of rake.

The play is about the same IMO, but the drop increases faster in a 1-3.

[NickMPK]

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1-3 vs. 1-2 is really a house issue.

If a house rakes the game at 10%, it can get much more drop in a 1-3.

It takes only 2 limpers and a the small blind folding in order to get the 1 dollar dropped in a 1-3.

In a 1-2, it takes 4 limpers and the small bling folding to get the first dollar of rake.

The play is about the same IMO, but the drop increases faster in a 1-3.

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I can't imagine this is much of an issue since at least 95% of 1-2 NL pots reach $10.

[tourney guy]

For the house, it is a huge issue. In studying 1/2 - it is much less than 95% of the pots getting to ten dollars.

Much less!!!!!

[MicroBob]

Not at the Tunica-Horseshoe 1/2 it isn't imo.

Chipr - thanks for the correction. Was unaware there was actually a cap on your 1/2 NL game.


That Wynn nonsense with $3 chips sounds incredibly silly.
I liked the $2 chips there okay on the 4/8 and 8/16 games though.

Bellagio 4/8 and 8/16 without the $2 chips could sometimes be a pain because from a distance it's kind of difficult to distinguish between the red $5 chips and the blue $1 chips sometimes. Especially if they're bet in a stack.

$8 bet is 3 blues and 1 red.
Raise to $16 and it's 3 reds and 1 blue.

On several occasions there players and dealers did not quickly see that the bet wasn't just called but that it was actually raised.

Horseshoe-Tunica the $1 chips are white so this isn't nearly as much of a problem (and the spread 4/8 and then 10/20...no 8/16 game there which also helps I guess).

I was really surprised at the Bellagio not doing something like adding $2 chips or whatever because the bet-size confusion using 1 and 5 chips only seemed to happen pretty frequently there.

[ungarop]

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For the house, it is a huge issue. In studying 1/2 - it is much less than 95% of the pots getting to ten dollars.

Much less!!!!!

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Where was this study done? Vegas, CA, CT, NJ, ...?

I am not sure I have seen this. In my experience, I would have thrown out 90%+ get to $1 rake, which is admittedly less than 95%, but not "Much Less".

Now if we are talking 4AM at a 5-handed table...