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Old 06-07-2007, 02:16 AM
Overfloater Overfloater is offline
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dude make it 420 how could you not?

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you: "dealer, what was the exact total that he raised to?"
dealer: "$210"
you: "and what would be exactly DOUBLE that amount?"
dealer: "that would be $420, sir"
you: "dealer, Im gonna have to go ahead and make it $420 straight"
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:08 AM
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push looks like a weaker hand so push. MINRERZ here looks super super strong. KKQQ would never do this. i dont think you are getting called either way though
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:19 AM
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Push for sure. I would strongly consider pushing with deeper stacks (even very deep vs some players) than this as well after an UTG limp-reraise.
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:26 AM
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I'd push so he doesn't set up and take most of my stack.
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:52 AM
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I'd push so he doesn't set up and take most of my stack.

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That is just silly. I know there are many players that are going to call my all-in with KK and if they hit a set, they hit it. I want the guys stack and to get it, I have to risk my own.
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:09 AM
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push looks like a weaker hand so push. MINRERZ here looks super super strong. KKQQ would never do this. i dont think you are getting called either way though

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Correct.

At the time I didn't fully think through his prior play in laying down the QQ on the turn (with an A on board). I should have crai on the flop, or if he checked the flop, bet something on the turn.

I thought for a bit and pushed, which sent him into the tank for about a minute. He then showed KK and folded pre-flop. Three players at the table then said they would have called with that hand.

So, I think my answer is: If someone has shown the ability to lay down a big hand, call and crai on the flop (maybe the turn). Otherwise min-reraise, or push pre-flop (which is a seperate question).
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:43 AM
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the real answer is:

just vary your play, once you get 20% of your stack in preflop with AA, you can do a lot of things that are still +ev
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:46 AM
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Correct.

At the time I didn't fully think through his prior play in laying down the QQ on the turn (with an A on board). I should have crai on the flop, or if he checked the flop, bet something on the turn.

I thought for a bit and pushed, which sent him into the tank for about a minute. He then showed KK and folded pre-flop. Three players at the table then said they would have called with that hand.

So, I think my answer is: If someone has shown the ability to lay down a big hand, call and crai on the flop (maybe the turn). Otherwise min-reraise, or push pre-flop (which is a seperate question).

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Seems standard. I haven't stepped up to 5-10, but I've seen this same situation go down several times at 1-2, 2-5. I'm guessing many 5-10 players would lay this down pf (maybe I've giving too much credit). I think call, c/r flop would have maximized value.
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:50 AM
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I'm guessing many 5-10 players would lay this down pf (maybe I've giving too much credit).

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huh, many players get laying down KK preflop with 100bb in this spot...?
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:20 PM
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I would have put in a small raise preflop.

I think what u want is here a call from someone who will be committed to call the push you are about to make on the flop.

I really don't like a call here as some people are suggesting. He's already priced in to call your raise if he isn't 100% sure you have aces. And after he's call, he's almost priced in again if an ace doesn't flop.

Don't get cute. Stack him.
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