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Re: Variance Please Help
I have not had more than a 200 BB downswing and I consider myself fortunate. I fully expect to outdo this at some point in the future. There are posts throughout these forums of much larger downswings from very good players.
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Re: Variance Please Help
Also, for a better response to particular hands, I would recommend (a) posting only one or maybe two hands per thread (more than that can be a little overwhelming) and (b) cleanup the hand history to a more easily readable form, do it manually if you have to (I don't even bother reading hands in the above format as I find it too hard to read).
GcluelessnoobcurrentlyonthehappysideofvarianceG |
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Re: Variance Please Help
You can search on money management to find more accurate numbers but I remember reading that a 200BB swing and a couple of 150's in 100k hands is not uncommon. My experience is slightly worse than that because I suck at poker - most of us do.
You shouldn't "expect" a reasonable downswing - treat them all like a learning experience and find your leaks. Like this one Dealt to JaneTheHot [Ac Ad] JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2 polochips: folds Nexus6mAA: calls $1 *** FLOP *** [Ah 8h 5s] Nexus6mAA: bets $1 JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2 Nexus6mAA: calls $1 *** TURN *** [Ah 8h 5s] [6c] Nexus6mAA: checks JaneTheHot: bets $2 Nexus6mAA: raises $2 to $4 JaneTheHot: raises $2 to $6 Nexus6mAA: raises $2 to $8 Betting is capped When you get hit with the c/r on the turn - there are 32 ways Nexus has a straight, 36 ways for 2pr and 9 ways for a smaller set. the str8 caps every time, you lose 2bb more than a calldown. A lot of ppl aren't aggressive enough to c/r 2pr on the turn but if Nexus is, he/she will probably calldown & you make 1 more. This 3bet is -EV Your PT screenshot shows A9s vpip=53 with pfr 19. I haven't played 1/2 for a long while but maybe you're open limping A9s too often and in the wrong spots (of course only being dealt 51 times is a very small sample, but is it the only hand you're doing it with?) |
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Re: Variance Please Help
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Dealt to JaneTheHot [Ac Ad] JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2 polochips: folds Nexus6mAA: calls $1 *** FLOP *** [Ah 8h 5s] Nexus6mAA: bets $1 JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2 Nexus6mAA: calls $1 *** TURN *** [Ah 8h 5s] [6c] Nexus6mAA: checks JaneTheHot: bets $2 Nexus6mAA: raises $2 to $4 JaneTheHot: raises $2 to $6 Nexus6mAA: raises $2 to $8 Betting is capped This 3bet is -EV [/ QUOTE ] Is this 3bet really bad cuz I'd do it every single time (perhaps only hesitating if the turn had of been a 4 or 9, completing an OESD, but I'd probably 3bet anyways). I find it harder to believe someone is coldcalling preflop and donking the flop with cards that the 6 completes a gutshot for; I'd much more think a smaller set. Besides, even if I am behind I have a 10 outs to catch up. |
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Re: Variance Please Help
When posting hands try putting them through a hand converter like the one at flopturnriver.com to make them easier to read. You'll get more feedback on the hands.
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Re: Variance Please Help
If you want people to give you feedback on your hand postings try running it through a hand converter like the one at wwwflopturnriver.com
Here's what you first hand looks like when converted: PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, CO calls. Flop: (9.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls. Turn: (5.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls. River: (9.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11.75 BB |
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Re: Variance Please Help
Same hand posting with results:
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, CO calls. Flop: (9.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls. Turn: (5.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls. River: (9.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11.75 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has Ad Ac (one pair, aces). CO has Kh Kc (three of a kind, kings). Outcome: CO wins 11.75 BB. </font> |
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Re: Variance Please Help
For the future posts I will def. use flopturnriver.com in order obtain such information. Thanks.
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Re: Variance Please Help
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (5.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (7.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. |
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Re: Variance Please Help
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 5, 5. [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (3 SB) 5, 6, 3 [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font> [color=#CC3333]Hero bets</font>, [color=#CC3333]BB raises</font>, MP2 folds, [color=#CC3333]Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: (4.50 BB) Q [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font> [color=#CC3333]Hero bets</font>, [color=#CC3333]BB raises</font>, Hero calls. River: (8.50 BB) K [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font> Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]BB bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 10.50 BB |
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