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Old 06-03-2007, 04:39 PM
Ignignokt Ignignokt is offline
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Interesting to hear most of you say that LHE is worse than NLHE for swings. I would have never thought that.

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Keep in mind that this isn't just opinion. It's mathematical fact.
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Old 06-03-2007, 04:48 PM
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My problem is that I will build my online bankroll to, say. $1K or so, start playing in the .50/$1 NL game, have a rought couple of weeks, fall to $400 or so, deicde I should keep playing this game, except this time, I will play 4 tables at once. Needless to say, this doesn't always work [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If that is the case, then you don't need a new game but some ideas about bankroll management. In NL, you should aim at having ~20-30 buy-ins for whatever stakes you're playing. So, for you to play 100NL, you'd need ~2.5k. As a matter of fact, having build up your roll to 1k, you shouldt START playing 50NL, not stop playing it.
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:33 PM
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Hard to give general advice for your limit game so far off that limited info. other than 25-30% sounds on the high side for a full ring game. I know in my LHE experience, I"m usually around 17-18% and I think those numbers are pretty common.

Posting in here and showing some of my specific hands I've had trouble with has helped me improve my game tremendously. I recommend the same for you. Welcome to the Micros......
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: New to LHE

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Thanks for the reply.

I'm a little confused. On the one hand, you say that 30% is too high and on the other hand, you say play any suited connector, pair and suited ace. Keep in mind that I am seeing the flop almost every time on each blind which is 20% of all hands right there. That means that I am only playing about 1 hand per orbit outside of the blinds...it doesn't get a whole lot tighter than that. I have been playing poker for a while...i am just new to LIMIT.



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You will not be getting up to 30% with suited connectors alone. You are looking at any ace and Kxs which are pretty low equity-wise. You will also be folding many hands to an early position raise. Depending on the game, you will not be playing 20% of all hands from all positions. You will be tighter early and looser later. Also as xhad said, you will should be tighter from the blinds, e.g. throw away junk cards in the SB and don't play any-2-suited in the bb to a raise, again a hand chart.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: New to LHE

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Hey guys...thanks for the great thoughts.

Interesting to hear most of you say that LHE is worse than NLHE for swings. I would have never thought that.

The reason I have switched to LHE is that I am trying to strengthen the mental part of my game (mainly patience). I have done fairly well at NLHE in the past 2 years. I have won many tournaments and, at times, have dominated the cash games. My problem is that I will build my online bankroll to, say. $1K or so, start playing in the .50/$1 NL game, have a rought couple of weeks, fall to $400 or so, deicde I should keep playing this game, except this time, I will play 4 tables at once. Needless to say, this doesn't always work [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I decided that I would build my bankroll the right way, moving up levels or down, etc. and I figured that it would be really hard to get too frustrated with LHE because even if I make one bad play, it only costs me 1 bet and I won't lose any sleep over that.

Again, thanks for the responses.

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The limit/NL variance analogy is correct, and loltacular, but I like Howard Lederer's comparison more for the general game: no-limit is an art, limit is a science.

If you want to learn patience at the poker table, limit hold'em is your game (except maybe razz). Patience will be taught to you, whether you like it or not.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:28 AM
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Hello.

I am just looking for some general advice. I have been playing poker for over 2 years. I mostly play in small home games and online. However, until recently, I have primarily played NLHE (usually 1-2, 2-4NL).

I have decided to play some LHE as I believe it will reduce the swings of online poker and allow myself to steadily grow my bankroll. I currently have an online bankroll of $75 and am playing the .10-.20 game. When I play live, I play $2-4.

What I need advice on is this...In NLHE, I am a very aggressive player and like to switch gears alot. In my brief experience in LHE, I notice that the majority of tables I play at, the average player is very loose/passive. As a result, I try to play tight aggressive for the most part and throw in a small bluff every so often just to make sure people know I am capable of betting without the best hand.

Last night, I played a full ring game at my local casino. I played very TA, playing about 25-30% of hands. I generally played very little in early position and played small pairs and suited connectors in later positions. Very few pots were raised pf and most pots have 7-8 players. I left the game after 4 hours and was down 9BB. I didn't think that was too bad except for after thinking about my game, there was hardly any hand I felt I didn't play as well as I could have.

Is this the right approach to be taking or should I loosen up my game more (if you can't beat them, join em!)?

Thanks for your help.

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Playing 25-30% of hands isn't really tight aggressive. I'm not saying that it is necessarily a bad way to play, but it could be a reason why you wound up down at the end of 4 hours.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: New to LHE

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Playing 25-30% of hands isn't really tight aggressive. I'm not saying that it is necessarily a bad way to play, but it could be a reason why you wound up down at the end of 4 hours.

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That doesn't mean he's VPIP'ing in 25-30% of pots, just that he's in them. Counting the blinds and the opportunity to see some spec hands cheap, 25-30% is a reasonable number.
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