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Old 06-03-2007, 03:08 PM
Vegetarian Vegetarian is offline
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Default Re: 100NL:TPGK + flush draw

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The Turn card is intersting as it looks looks like its improved you hand but not sure if it actually has.


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barring KK(1combo) it has at minimum given you 2more outs

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the guy who mentioned folding the turn has an interesting point.

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that he's scared to put money in the middle?

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No, that there are very few hands we beat.
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Old 06-03-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: 100NL:TPGK + flush draw

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The Turn card is intersting as it looks looks like its improved you hand but not sure if it actually has.


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barring KK(1combo) it has at minimum given you 2more outs

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the guy who mentioned folding the turn has an interesting point.

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that he's scared to put money in the middle?

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No, that there are very few hands we beat.

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very few hands make sense that beat us as well, he has to show up with random bluffs basically never for a fold to even be considered
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 100NL:TPGK + flush draw

I guess since he's aggro I might check behind in case he donks the turn, or raise flop if you think he'd shove with a draw.
It's a messy spot but I think it played out as well as it could.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: 100NL:TPGK + flush draw

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I guess since he's aggro I might check behind in case he donks the turn, or raise flop if you think he'd shove with a draw.
It's a messy spot but I think it played out as well as it could.

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wait wtf you'd check behind on the flop?
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: 100NL:TPGK + flush draw

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The Turn card is intersting as it looks looks like its improved you hand but not sure if it actually has.


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barring KK(1combo) it has at minimum given you 2more outs

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the guy who mentioned folding the turn has an interesting point.

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that he's scared to put money in the middle?

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No, that there are very few hands we beat.

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I think folding the turn is criminal. If my math is correct even if villain has a monster (KK, AT) we are getting the correct implied odds to call.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: 100NL:TPGK + flush draw

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I guess since he's aggro I might check behind in case he donks the turn, or raise flop if you think he'd shove with a draw.
It's a messy spot but I think it played out as well as it could.

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wait wtf you'd check behind on the flop?

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I dont think checking behind is really that bad because IMO villain is aggro enough to bluff a lot of turns.
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: 100NL:TPGK + flush draw

Oh yeah, villain had KQ.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:49 AM
Johnes Benjamin Johnes Benjamin is offline
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Default Re: 100NL:TPGK + flush draw

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I guess since he's aggro I might check behind in case he donks the turn, or raise flop if you think he'd shove with a draw.
It's a messy spot but I think it played out as well as it could.

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wait wtf you'd check behind on the flop?

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I dont think checking behind is really that bad because IMO villain is aggro enough to bluff a lot of turns.

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This is all I was getting at. Not something I'd generally do, but if you think it is the only way of getting a worse hand to put money in so be it. Plus, he would expect anyone with flush draw to c-bet so it'd be harder for him to put you on it, he might even represent it if it comes
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