If you don't usually read the "Tournament Circuit/WSOP" forum...

[Chipr777]

We, at Horseshoe Tunica, sent out 5 of our dealers to deal the WSOP. All 5 dealers are very good. I havn't talked to any of them yet but I plan to call and find out how they;re hanging in there... I'll post when I hear a dealer perspective.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

There are few returning or experienced dealers willing to work the wsop again after the previous disasters, which seem to get worse each year harrahs runs it. Of course given the large percentage of total a-holes in the wsop cash games, particularly the high limit ones, no one should be surprised about the bottom of the barrel staff going to the cash games.

I feel sorry for all the newbie dealers who wind up there, tossed to the wolves by a company that may not even pay them. I have seen a few of these "wsop certified dealers" and they are so pathetically untrained it's scary. So much for the value of this "certification," pure corporate bullcrap. Training for the poker industry in LV is completely non-existent other than a few poker schools. No LV casino trains dealers or floors at all, as far as I know. If there is an exception to this it is probably bellagio and possibly mirage. Some have flirted with the idea but it never materializes, and years later the same dealers still have the same bad habits.

To this day I have never met anyone who received training before their first day as a poker floorperson (other than paperwork training). Like myself, like everyone, your training is this: "now you're the floor." Few are ready, I wasn't either but much live playing experience allowed me to fake it pretty good till I got enough experience to where I was actually good at it. :-)

[bigfishead]

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There are few returning or experienced dealers willing to work the wsop again after the previous disasters,

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Yea the flat broke ones come back...cuz they cant pass a drug test anywhere for steady work.

[Chipr777]

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You've simply GOT to see the uproar caused by the confusing new card design at the WSOP this year...


[/ QUOTE ] At least the numbers are small in the corners so you can still see what you have without risking exposing your hand. At first glance I didn't see the little numbers in the corners. It may take some getting used to but I cant see any problems with the cards. To each his own.

[pokerswami]

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You've simply GOT to see the uproar caused by the confusing new card design at the WSOP this year...


[/ QUOTE ] At least the numbers are small in the corners so you can still see what you have without risking exposing your hand. At first glance I didn't see the little numbers in the corners. It may take some getting used to but I cant see any problems with the cards. To each his own.

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Wait until these cards make it to the TV broadcasts.

The whole current poker boom has been because of TV poker, and now Harrah's is using cards that will look like total crap on television. No one will be able to read the little numbers from the corners on a TV screen, except with the "hidden" rail camera shots. At first glance, I expect the overhead shots of the boards will look yucky.

I could be totally wrong about this, but I really don't see the need that prompted this. Maybe the card manufacturer expects to sell a boatload of plastic coated paper card deck imitations of the real 100% plastic cards. I wonder how much testing of the cards on camera they did.

[TonyLA]

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You've simply GOT to see the uproar caused by the confusing new card design at the WSOP this year...


[/ QUOTE ] At least the numbers are small in the corners so you can still see what you have without risking exposing your hand. At first glance I didn't see the little numbers in the corners. It may take some getting used to but I cant see any problems with the cards. To each his own.

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Wait until these cards make it to the TV broadcasts.

The whole current poker boom has been because of TV poker, and now Harrah's is using cards that will look like total crap on television. No one will be able to read the little numbers from the corners on a TV screen, except with the "hidden" rail camera shots. At first glance, I expect the overhead shots of the boards will look yucky.

I could be totally wrong about this, but I really don't see the need that prompted this. Maybe the card manufacturer expects to sell a boatload of plastic coated paper card deck imitations of the real 100% plastic cards. I wonder how much testing of the cards on camera they did.

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I'm assuming they made this change *for* TV - they wanted bigger numbers/letters/symbols so it's easier to read the cards on television - there HAS to be a better design idea out there though - this is horrible.

[pfapfap]

Is this real? Are we being leveled, as the kids like to say?

[pig4bill]

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You've simply GOT to see the uproar caused by the confusing new card design at the WSOP this year...


[/ QUOTE ] At least the numbers are small in the corners so you can still see what you have without risking exposing your hand. At first glance I didn't see the little numbers in the corners. It may take some getting used to but I cant see any problems with the cards. To each his own.

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Wait until these cards make it to the TV broadcasts.

The whole current poker boom has been because of TV poker, and now Harrah's is using cards that will look like total crap on television. No one will be able to read the little numbers from the corners on a TV screen, except with the "hidden" rail camera shots. At first glance, I expect the overhead shots of the boards will look yucky.

I could be totally wrong about this, but I really don't see the need that prompted this. Maybe the card manufacturer expects to sell a boatload of plastic coated paper card deck imitations of the real 100% plastic cards. I wonder how much testing of the cards on camera they did.

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I'm assuming they made this change *for* TV - they wanted bigger numbers/letters/symbols so it's easier to read the cards on television - there HAS to be a better design idea out there though - this is horrible.

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Actually, the word I heard is that the little corner, when pulled up at the usual angle, is theoretically perfectly viewed by the hole cam. But yeah, the board was initially misread many times in the sats I eventually got into.

It's strange how with all the talk about not hiring many outside dealers, most of mine were new to Harrah's. Of course, even at that, Harrah's didn't hire enough because lists are long at Bally's, where they don't have enough dealers.

The other funny thing is every dealer was scrambling before the shuffle.

Wait in the registration line was reportedly 5 hours, 3 hours if you got in line at 3 a.m.

[T Money]

I love the corner markings on the cards (although that's obviously meant for the "Insert highest bidder here" pocket cam), but everything besides that looks like garbage.

If it ain't broke...

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You've simply GOT to see the uproar caused by the confusing new card design at the WSOP this year...


[/ QUOTE ] At least the numbers are small in the corners so you can still see what you have without risking exposing your hand. At first glance I didn't see the little numbers in the corners. It may take some getting used to but I cant see any problems with the cards. To each his own.

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problem isn't the "peek", the problem is reading the board in community card games. I might like using the new card designs for draw games, but for anything else I hate them.