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#12
05-31-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: Can I get away from this...2/4 PL deep
One thing that good NL players get is that the more money gets poured into a pot, the more likely you are to be facing the nuts. Most PLO players do not get this at all. AT ALL. And especially 2+2 players it seems. In general, if you are either even money or a big dog then this is not a good PLO spot. I christened this DIYDDIYD. I'm not saying this this is one of those cases but its getting there. And the more of a stack that is shovelled in the more getting there it gets.
gl bdd 
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#13
05-31-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: Can I get away from this...2/4 PL deep
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One thing that good NL players get is that the more money gets poured into a pot, the more likely you are to be facing the nuts. Most PLO players do not get this at all. AT ALL. And especially 2+2 players it seems. In general, if you are either even money or a big dog then this is not a good PLO spot. I christened this DIYDDIYD. I'm not saying this this is one of those cases but its getting there. And the more of a stack that is shovelled in the more getting there it gets. [/ QUOTE ] How would you recommendate that the OOP plays this with same betting patterns: QQxx flop Q55 Shall we slow down because we dont have the nuts?
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#14
05-31-2007, 06:44 PM
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Re: Can I get away from this...2/4 PL deep
Troll,
Why are you always trolling me? I'm sure even you can see that these situations are very different. gl bdd
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#15
05-31-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: Can I get away from this...2/4 PL deep
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Troll, Why are you always trolling me? I'm sure even you can see that these situations are very different. [/ QUOTE ] I like to bring down the big guns! I don't see how they are different if we are talking about the nuts. If you have a Q and the first board is Qxx, or a second board with 55xx and you have no 5's, then: aren't there are exactly the same number of ways for your opponent to be dealt QQxx or 55xx (both the nuts)?
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#16
05-31-2007, 07:58 PM
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Re: Can I get away from this...2/4 PL deep
Troll,
This isn't a permutation question. Sure there can only be X combinations of Y kind of hands, but that is the problem of probability, with no player intervention. When the money starts moving, so does the answer. It is not just about how often the nuts is out, but what other hands he might be stacking with and what is your EV against them. Let me put it another way. Let's say you have 150BB and there is 2BB in the pot. Let us also assume that if our foe stacks in the first case he either has a better hand or a good wrap. Maybe a smaller percentage of top two and a striaght draw. Now hand crank your EV in that case. Now do the same for your example. Even for comparatively high probabilities of being against quads, your EV will be much better. I'm suspecting that you never looked up DIYDDIYD [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] gl bdd
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#18
05-31-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: Can I get away from this...2/4 PL deep
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I'm suspecting that you never looked up DIYDDIYD [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I have a hard time figuring out what you are saying and what your point is in this thread; I'll be damned if I'm going to go hunting through the internets on a wild goose chase.
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#20
05-31-2007, 08:36 PM
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Re: Can I get away from this...2/4 PL deep
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[ QUOTE ] I'm suspecting that you never looked up DIYDDIYD [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I have a hard time figuring out what you are saying and what your point is in this thread; I'll be damned if I'm going to go hunting through the internets on a wild goose chase. [/ QUOTE ] Careful, you'll also be damned if you don't. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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