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Old 05-30-2007, 10:53 AM
PBJaxx PBJaxx is offline
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Default Re: NL100 | Finding The Edges Of Baluga

I really don't see him C/R the turn with any 1 pair hands if he is reasonable (except AA, if he really doesn't 3bet ever). His range is basically 68, KQ, 666, 888, and semibluffs. I would also throw in a discounted AA, AK, and KKK. I would like to see a pokerstove against that range on the turn (at work, I can't do it). Folding the turn may be in order. If he somehow checks the river, check behind. The goal here is to get to cheap showdown as I think we only beat his missed draws.

If he shoves river (most likely), I probably fold. The ace completed TJhh, AK, A6hh, and AA. This feels like we should either fold the turn or call the river, but he does show a lot more strength by shoving the river after you call the turn C/R, so I don't think he is bluffing that river very often.
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: NL100 | Finding The Edges Of Baluga

The river doesnt improve him often at all, unless he has AQhh.

Most of the times:
AK would have 3b pre
AQ,A8 would have folded on the flop
A6hh would have c/r the flopp.
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: NL100 | Finding The Edges Of Baluga

Id probably fold turn as well... the c/c... c/r turn is a very strong hand most of the time...as played fold river or check it down
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: NL100 | Finding The Edges Of Baluga

You're right I probably should have folded the turn.

Given this, should I have checked the turn behind?
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: NL100 | Finding The Edges Of Baluga

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Given this, should I have checked the turn behind?

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no, but it wouldn't be horrible on a drier board.
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: NL100 | Finding The Edges Of Baluga

if he bets you have to fold. if he checks, check behind.
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: NL100 | Finding The Edges Of Baluga

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You're right I probably should have folded the turn.

Given this, should I have checked the turn behind?

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Meh, I did think about that, and I might do it sometimes. Generally, though, I think a turn bet is good to protect against draws and extract from his one pair hands that he wants to get to showdown. His range is a lot wider before we see him C/R, and I we want to bet against that range.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: NL100 | Finding The Edges Of Baluga

how often is this turn cr a worse hand? ever? my first thought was to push...
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:57 PM
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Tickner, you dont think the river changed things?

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The river definietly changed things. I was simply saying that on the turn decision (when we didnt know the river card) I would have just folded if I planned on folding to any river shove, which he will do often IMO.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: NL100 | Finding The Edges Of Baluga

Oh, I see what you're saying. Yes, I think I should have folded the turn here.
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