Turn: bet out, check-call, or check-raise?

[Troll_Inc]

As soon as I posted this I realized that "no reads" wasn't exactly correct. I was at the table long enough to know that the villain wasn't a crazy aggro maniac, donkey, never gotten way out of line, etc.

He ended up showing: Qh Tc 8h 3c

I'm a slight favorite on the flop:
http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=o&b=8d+...%0AQh+Tc+8h+3c

But on the turn no more:
http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=o&b=8d+...%0AQh+Tc+8h+3c

[Full-Metall]

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You picked up 3 more straight outs on the turn. Check-raise.

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But the deuce doesn't complete anything and doesn't give us a huge pot equity with our draw. So why raise when calling is +ev as well?

Not like the villain is going "well I'm potting this deuce turn becuase seems like I'm still good and then umm well he raised I guess I must be beat after all I fold". Atleast he shouldn't be betting and then folding. No matter what he calls the flop with and then bets.

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I think your hand is well disguised, therefore, i see him potting the turn with a weak hand that knows that AA, KK, and other vulnerable hands aren't going to be able to call. He could be making this move with a pair of 10s and a small wrap as a semi-bluff. I also don't see much value in calling. If he does have 2pair, he's probably not gonna call off a bet when the board connects. I think You are 44% to win against a bare 2 pair, which I don't think he has, well at least not top two. I think c/r is the most efficient because I see him folding here quite a bit and you're out of position, if you do hit, so he won't be calling off big bets. reads would help of course.

[piiop]

I don't think you have very much fold equity once he pots the turn. Plus having no pair/J-high is obv pretty bad for us when he does call the ai.

[CastlesMadeASand]

i like how the whole thing was played. i think betting the river is good vs some.

[pooflingerr]

Your hand is too face up on this river not to at least value bet.

As is I am then b/f

[pooflingerr]

nm you're not deep enough for b/f