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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
You said he's a competent regular. How often do you think he is leading/3-betting OOP on the flop with worse than AK?
It certainly feels like AK or a set. I would muck on the turn. As played, you probably have to call the river. |
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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
Mike,
Seems like you beat 67h and lose to everything else. I fold the turn. It feels like a "get it all in on two streets" size bet. |
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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
hi mike,
ive played with you a few times in the wee hour bellagio games lately and i actually like your line here given generally how the game plays. I highly doubt villain in this hand has a set given how the action went down unless he likes to donk out often into big fields with strong hands, I think his range is more the likes of K5,K8,85, or Ah8h and 6h7h. I think he is going to show up with 85 here very often given his line. Although generally your very behind here, with how those short 10-20 games play late at night I think call/call is the best line to induce most of his range which you are ahead of to get his money in. This is all assuming that its the typical 5-6am where everyone is playing pretty loose and gambling bellagio 10-20 game. |
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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
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how come we stopped putting money in on the flop? [/ QUOTE ] i agree, we are ahead of pretty much everything but 55 here, if we are planning to call this down i like pushing hard on a 4 bet on the flop to push out some draws or make them pay. |
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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
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[ QUOTE ] how come we stopped putting money in on the flop? [/ QUOTE ] i agree, we are ahead of pretty much everything but 55 here, if we are planning to call this down i like pushing hard on a 4 bet on the flop to push out some draws or make them pay. [/ QUOTE ] I sort of feel this way as well. But the counter point is that we have 350 BB. |
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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
This is a very marginal spot and you can't really berate yourself for either calling or folding- you need to think about your opponent and think whether you beat him enough times to call here profitably. This may seem like little advice but it's all that can really be given imho in such a tight spot!
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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
i fold the turn.
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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
mike, I'm in the fold turn camp but think you can also fold the river barring a read. it's awkward and I would hate doing it, but I think chances of 85 and similar playing river like this are small. obv there's the busted draw but it's hard for him to put you on less than two pair and I don't think he's trying to get you to fold for your last 3k.
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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
I have to agree with Baluga here. Once that bullet hits the turn you are behind all legitimate hands besides 6h7h or an overplayed 85s. All in on the flop you have most likely worst case scenario of top 2 vs bottom set. But with all hands like 6h7h, Ah8h, etc... the implied odds are there with 5K+ left behind for him to 3bet to 1400+ if it will slow you down with AK, AA, or even K8 (if he could put you on that some how).
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Re: bellagio 10-20 deep: top 2 on the flop facing pressure
your not gonna get that much meaningful advice about this exact hand but I'd like to suggest you figure out how you arrived at calling on the turn when there are 2 better options.
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