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Old 05-22-2007, 07:32 AM
fretelöo fretelöo is offline
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

Hold on, my comment was based on the fact that we're up against two (= no all-in player). HU, things become different because that turn bet shows an immediate profit if he just folds 20% of the time. However, assuming both villains each individually fold 20% of the time means that we'll actually only get a fold .2*.2 = 4% of the time.
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Old 05-22-2007, 01:10 PM
Eriol Eriol is offline
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

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HU, things become different because that turn bet shows an immediate profit if he just folds 20% of the time. However, assuming both villains each individually fold 20% of the time means that we'll actually only get a fold .2*.2 = 4% of the time.

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Old 05-22-2007, 01:47 PM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

My 'yes' was for being headsup. With two opponents I definately check/call.
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Old 05-22-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: flush on the river, call or 3bet?

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Turn bet is standard if you don't have an all-in player.

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No.

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Yes.

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Could you please explain why a turn bet would be standard against 2 players ?

Fretelloos explanation that you are unlikely to have much fold equity against 2 players who called your flop 3-bet makes sense.

There is also the possibility that one of your opponents might have a higher flush draw than yours. But even if you did have 12 full outs, it would not be enough to be able to bet the turn for value, without decent fold equity.

Edit: Sorry, I posted while you were responding.
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