25 NL: Marginal hand against huge fish

[Superman26gt]

All I can come up with is call his bet on the turn..which looks like a standard fish flush bet

and then either wait a really long time or really fast bet $.25 and see what he does

[Keys Myaths]

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Why bother betting this flop against such a bad station?? You have a gutshot on a twotone board.

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His fold to c-bet % was 40%. It was still worth it.

[Keys Myaths]

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Keys, it sounds like you just talked yourself into calling it down, no?

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No. Felix wanted me to peel here.

I folded.

BTW--to prove my point, here's the two hands where I finally stacked him, which were pretty close to each other.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($19.45)
MP ($53.25)
CO ($42.45)
Button ($25)
Keys ($25.10)
BB ($31.90)

Preflop: Keys is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Keys raises to $2.9</font>, BB calls $2.55, MP folds.

Flop: ($6.55) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Keys bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $19</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Keys raises to $26.3 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $3.30.

Turn: ($55.15) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($55.15) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $55.15

Results in white below:
Keys has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
BB has 3h 9h (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Keys wins $51.15. BB wins $3.99.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($19.45)
UTG ($52.40)
MP ($42.45)
CO ($25)
Keys ($48.50)
SB ($6.80)

Preflop: Keys is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Keys raises to $2.9</font>, SB calls $2.80, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $2.05.

Flop: ($8.95) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3.9 (All-In)</font>, CO folds, Keys calls $3.90.

Turn: ($16.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($16.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $16.75

Results in white below:
SB has Td 6h (flush, queen high).
Keys has Kd Ad (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Keys wins $16.75.



That's what I'm talking about, and the only reason I'm asking this question.

[SirFelixCat]

Ok, here is why I wanted him to peel (CO here is the monkey)...

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $53.70
BB: $42.35
UTG: $8.90
MP: $24.75
<u>CO: $12.30</u>
<u>BTN: $29.55</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> is dealt (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN calls $1.00, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($3.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">CO bets all-in for $11.30</font>, BTN calls $11.30, UTG folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($25.95) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($25.95) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $25.95 ($1.25 Rake)

CO had 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Fours and Threes) and WON (+$12.40)
BTN had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$12.30)

He possibly is the worst 25NL player on FT, plain and simple. Folding is by no means poor here, but I also think we're way ahead of his range. Granted, we don't want to inflate the pot, cause even monkeys get hands once in a while, but I really think peeling here is a +EV play.