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Old 05-17-2007, 05:00 PM
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From an unattributed source:

A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War Two owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

"Very few people were true Nazis "he said," but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories."

We are told again and again by "experts" and "talking heads" that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace.

Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.

It is the fanatics who march.
It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.
It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave.
It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill.
It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.
It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals.

The hard quantifiable fact is that the "peaceful majority" the "silent majority" is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia comprised Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge population, it was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War 2 was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel and bayonet.

And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were "peace loving"?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.

Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awake one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

As for us who watch it all unfold; we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, at the risk of offending, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, can contribute to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on!! Let us hope that thousands, world wide, read this - think about it - and send it on.
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:13 PM
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:31 PM
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Nice email. Now if only Israel will listen to the peaceful Israelis.
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:49 PM
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That's ironic, I thought he was talking about America until he brought up Islam.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:51 PM
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That's ironic, I thought he was talking about America until he brought up Islam.

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me too
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:33 PM
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That's ironic, I thought he was talking about America until he brought up Islam.

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It's about everyone right. Isn't that a truth we can agree on: Those that speak loudest are heard most often.

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Old 05-18-2007, 10:24 AM
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The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.

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Yet somehow they do not control the governments. The great majority of Muslim nations are not run by Islamic radicals. Syria, Egypt, Turkey!!!, Indonesia, Jordan, on and on. (Stand by for exceptions to be claimed as the rule.)

The OP is McCarthyite scare mongering on the same order as the fluoridated water hysteria. There is so much political hay to be had by frightening people.
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:09 PM
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The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.

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Yet somehow they do not control the governments. The great majority of Muslim nations are not run by Islamic radicals. Syria, Egypt, Turkey!!!, Indonesia, Jordan, on and on. (Stand by for exceptions to be claimed as the rule.)

The OP is McCarthyite scare mongering on the same order as the fluoridated water hysteria. There is so much political hay to be had by frightening people.

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If you exclude countries with supposedly moderate governments that are strongly influenced by radicals (or worse, clandestinely support them), I dont think you are left with a majority of "moderate Muslim countries". Clearly the populations the true moderates govern are in the minority.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:35 PM
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The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.

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Yet somehow they do not control the governments. The great majority of Muslim nations are not run by Islamic radicals. Syria, Egypt, Turkey!!!, Indonesia, Jordan, on and on. (Stand by for exceptions to be claimed as the rule.)

The OP is McCarthyite scare mongering on the same order as the fluoridated water hysteria. There is so much political hay to be had by frightening people.

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If you exclude countries with supposedly moderate governments that are strongly influenced by radicals (or worse, clandestinely support them), I dont think you are left with a majority of "moderate Muslim countries". Clearly the populations the true moderates govern are in the minority.

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Please define a moderate govt for me. Because I don't know of any govt that has been involved in more conflicts, has secret police all over the globe, and has a more aggressive posture than the US. If numbers are any guide, the fact that we spend OVER 7 TIMES as much on defense as the #2 nation in the world should be a clue. But we're the moderate, peace-loving guys...
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