Learning ALL OVER again

[skelm]

I really don't see why this hand made it past the flop? You obviously put the pre-flop raiser on something and if you were just planning to check-call if you actually did make any type of hand then why did you even consider calling the flop?

[Thomas Newton]

For me personally, with no reads its a fold PF if this is FR.

The Good Book says to limp and hope for limp alongers. The raise likely has you near dead tho so we don't call the flop bet ever - especially since BB is calling.

Short handed - raise! Still can't call a flop bet tho.

[JavaNut]

Preflop A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in MP with no limpers in front is worth a raise. If the villain behind you cold calls or even raises you and you get this flop, you'll know where you are: up the river, no paddle and no canoe. Then c/f the flop.

[Xhad]

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I think the problem was you never did learn in the first place.

Raise preflop if you're gonna play. Don't open limp in MP. Looks like someone tried iso-raising you cause you're such a fish.

Rest is fine.

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I actually thought the pf limp was the least objectionable part of the hand. The flop call is especially bad.

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For me personally, with no reads its a fold PF if this is FR.

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I don't fold A9s UTG in limits below 5/10.

[Ampelmann]

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I actually thought the pf limp was the least objectionable part of the hand. The flop call is especially bad.

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Full ack.

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I don't fold A9s UTG in limits below 5/10.

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I do. But then again, my postflop play is not even nearly as good as yours.

[voyamatarte]

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Raise preflop if you're gonna play. Don't open limp in MP. Looks like someone tried iso-raising you cause you're such a fish.

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I've been limping alot with alot of low pairs, waiting to catch a set. I assume that many people will pay out well with this. Is this a -ev play, or is it table dependent?

[JavaNut]

Low pairs are for limping for sets mostly, first-in in LP you could raise to steal. You really can't defend a small pair on any flop so UI you would mostly end up folding to any aggro.

But when you limp, you would like either very few raises preflop in general on your table or that there are usually other callers to the raise to make small pp profitable.

[nomadtla]

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Raise preflop if you're gonna play. Don't open limp in MP. Looks like someone tried iso-raising you cause you're such a fish.

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I've been limping alot with alot of low pairs, waiting to catch a set. I assume that many people will pay out well with this. Is this a -ev play, or is it table dependent?

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It is not so much the limping that Matt is hatting on here. It is the open-limping. Small pocket pairs are good for set value after a few limpers. They can also be profitable if played well in blind steal situations. Just don't limp 22 first in unless the table is truly that good where 3-4 people behind you will limp and almost no one raises.