Simple One

[donger]

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Bet/fold. Next hand.

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let me keep note of you so i can raise this river

online i tend to check/call this river more often than not

although
the more passive they are
and the more LIVE they are
id lean towards bet/fold

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That was a poker haiku

[PokerBob]

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I bet call and hate myself and i check and he checks K8 and i hate myself

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[bugstud]

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

815 games 0.005 secs 163,000 games/sec

Board: Ac Kc Qd Td 4d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.853% 27.48% 00.37% 224 3.00 { AJs-A2s, KQs, QTs+, AJo-A5o, A3o-A2o, KTo }
Hand 1: 72.147% 71.78% 00.37% 585 3.00 { KQo }

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you didn't include any diamond draws

[donger]

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) Donger is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Donger calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.6SB, 2 players)
Donger checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Donger raises</font>, Button calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Donger bets</font>, Button calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Donger bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Donger calls.

Results:
Final pot: 10.3BB
Button Shows 8c 8d
Donger Shows Ks 2c

[milesdyson]

how is defending k2o +ev?

[joker122]

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how is defending k2o +ev?

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stox's new book says to defend there. i also think it's really loose.

[vmacosta]

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how is defending k2o +ev?

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When button opens with 50% of his hands

[Leader]

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how is defending k2o +ev?

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In Stox we trust! Well he says K3o but whatever.

I usually defend K5o+. There can't be much difference.

[milesdyson]

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how is defending k2o +ev?

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When button opens with 50% of his hands

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i doubt it, but im only going on intuition. position plays such a huge part here. if the guy opens 50% and is not a horrible player i don't see how he's not going to make up for the slight equity disadvantage by abusing having position on you. maybe stox can do it at big games where rake is almost a nonfactor, but i cant believe that just a normal 10/20 winner can make k2o +ev there against anyone but a horrible player. sorry for the hijack. would be cool to see a large number of trials for Kxo and Qxo hands in bb defense scenarios where x &lt;= 5 or 6.

edit: as far as the subject hand i agree 100% with victor's post below and i like the title because this seems like a simple decision. i think Ax finds a check a lot here if you check to him, and Kx definitely does.

[Victor]

checking is kinda bad here. even if he is a spazztard he is still likely smart enough to realize your check is with the intention of calling a bet so he will mostly bet hands you beat. you proly collect bets from kt and qt but he proly checks the rest that we are ahead of.

i think betting is better to induce a bluff and you get plenty of value as bryces post indicates.