$22 ($10kg) 5th hand. Presented in stages, How to play it? - Page 2

registrar · #11 05-16-2007, 02:03 PM

I raise to 100, hesitate and call the RR, in position with the nuts.

SonofDjugashvili · #12 05-16-2007, 02:04 PM

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Ok I dont think this is interensting so I will get to next stage. I did want to build a pot preflop so I bet t100 but then things got interesting. What is your next move?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t2970)
MP1 (t2940)
MP2 (t3060)
MP3 (t2960)
CO (t3220)
Hero (t2970)
SB (t2880)
BB (t2980)
UTG (t3000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, 5 folds, Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, BB calls t80, UTG raises to t400, Hero ?

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Call the re-raise to disguise your hand; I am assuming the BB folds at this point. I am assuming UTG has AK, KK, maybe QQ, or is doing the internet donk limp-reraise-with small pair.

Automatically raise his bet on the flop UNLESS you flop an A. If he makes a set and you stack-off - too bad - you have a dream scenario - disguised AA PF in position, likely 4-1 favourite. This is a great opportunity to double-up early. If he sucks out, that's pokerstars. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

registrar · #13 05-16-2007, 02:05 PM

Calling is good poker. To be honest though, I think if he's limp-raised UTG, he'll call a push 90%+ of the time with a range that will make your eyes pop.

Sherman · #14 05-16-2007, 02:07 PM

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Calling is good poker. To be honest though, I think if he's limp-raised UTG, he'll call a push 90%+ of the time with a range that will make your eyes pop.

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That's why I'd go ahead and re-raise PF. Villain's line screams that he is willing to felt his hand anyway. (Seriously, who limp/re-raises on the 5th hand this deep?) Make sure we get there.

Fiksdal · #15 05-16-2007, 02:10 PM

lol villain is never folding here, go all-in

And no, flat calling is pretty bad IMO. Villain likes his hand right now. Let's not let him see a flop where he might not anymore.

mflip · #16 05-16-2007, 02:17 PM

Alright, if his l/rr range is AK, QQ+ he's probably not folding PF. So do we make it ~1100 or just shove?

Patrio · #17 05-16-2007, 02:21 PM

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lol villain is never folding here, go all-in

And no, flat calling is pretty bad IMO. Villain likes his hand right now. Let's not let him see a flop where he might not anymore.

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And what if he is one of those donks who limp/raise with a small pair? I think he will fold to a push (or not)

I decided to call with the nuts hoping to get HU with utg, but bb called also. Then we got action. Is this an easy push/call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t2970)
MP1 (t2940)
MP2 (t3060)
MP3 (t2960)
CO (t3220)
Hero (t2970)
SB (t2880)
BB (t2980)
UTG (t3000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, 5 folds, Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, BB calls t80, UTG raises to t400, Hero calls t300, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t1210) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets t60, UTG raises to t2600, Hero ?

Fiksdal · #18 05-16-2007, 02:31 PM

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And what if he is one of those donks who limp/raise with a small pair? I think he will fold to a push (or not)

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Yep. I don't ever ever see villain folding after taking this preflop line.

I guess you have to push the flop since it could be AK/QQ/random stuff. I don't like it so much anymore though, becuase TT and KK were modest parts of his range.

Patrio · #19 05-16-2007, 02:36 PM

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And what if he is one of those donks who limp/raise with a small pair? I think he will fold to a push (or not)

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Yep. I don't ever ever see villain folding after taking this preflop line.

I guess you have to push the flop since it could be AK/QQ/random stuff. I don't like it so much anymore though, becuase TT and KK were modest parts of his range.

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Have you ever played against a villain who pushes KK/TT here after this flop? With these stacks of course

RonFezBuddy · #20 05-16-2007, 02:42 PM

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Ok I dont think this is interensting so I will get to next stage. I did want to build a pot preflop so I bet t100 but then things got interesting. What is your next move?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t2970)
MP1 (t2940)
MP2 (t3060)
MP3 (t2960)
CO (t3220)
Hero (t2970)
SB (t2880)
BB (t2980)
UTG (t3000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, 5 folds, Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, BB calls t80, UTG raises to t400, Hero ?

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You gotta shove or raise to 800 here. By calling, you're going to make the pot look enticing to the BB and playing AA 3-handed is way worse than playing them 2-handed.

The argument of calling to disguise your strength is less relevant because the purpose of disguising is to trick him to put his chips in. I don't think that's necessary. The limp-reraise narrows his range to big pair, AK and he will go in with you PF.

If he folds to a raise now, he probably check/folds on the flop too because he smells something.