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Old 05-15-2007, 04:59 PM
ama0330 ama0330 is offline
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

Coinflip. Call if you like variance, fold if you dont. Easy

FWIW I probably dump it.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

one think is for sure:

shoving is better than calling>>>>what makes these hands really profitable is a decent amount of time they fold!!!

So unless villian is a very aggro player, i think i won't call here.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

IF YOU ARE FOLDING HERE YOU NEED TO MOVE DOWN OR SOMETHING.

and this is why c/r'ing without a plan is stupid.

and lol at "is my range too wide" when it's only about halfway done.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

can you explain why exactly should i move down, when i fold to what seems in the very best scenario a coinflip situation.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

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IF YOU ARE FOLDING HERE YOU NEED TO MOVE DOWN OR SOMETHING.

and this is why c/r'ing without a plan is stupid.

and lol at "is my range too wide" when it's only about halfway done.

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You really think you're more than like 54% here
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:14 PM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

so ama if we are atleast a 54% fav you fold???

if the range you put villian on is spot on yes were bascially flipin a coin (well a bit of an underdog) so a fold isnt too bad. Its a nuetral EV spot so IMO its preference if you dont mind variance call, if you do then fold.

and lol at folding here you need to move down, obv not
though a c/r here w/o a plan isnt a very good idea
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

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[ QUOTE ]
IF YOU ARE FOLDING HERE YOU NEED TO MOVE DOWN OR SOMETHING.

and this is why c/r'ing without a plan is stupid.

and lol at "is my range too wide" when it's only about halfway done.

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You really think you're more than like 54% here

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are you folding 88 here if villain open shoved?

if so, terrible.

8s 8h 897979 52.44 806758 47.12 7567 0.44 0.527
Ah Kh 806758 47.12 897979 52.44 7567 0.44 0.473
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

This is a slightly +ev call that you have to make in my opinion
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:54 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

wow, i can't believe no one mentioned where u went wrong.

YOU MUST, LEAD 3-BET the flop. this hand is all about FE.
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: nl50:i am not sure here

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
IF YOU ARE FOLDING HERE YOU NEED TO MOVE DOWN OR SOMETHING.

and this is why c/r'ing without a plan is stupid.

and lol at "is my range too wide" when it's only about halfway done.

[/ QUOTE ]

You really think you're more than like 54% here

[/ QUOTE ]

are you folding 88 here if villain open shoved?

if so, terrible.

8s 8h 897979 52.44 806758 47.12 7567 0.44 0.527
Ah Kh 806758 47.12 897979 52.44 7567 0.44 0.473

[/ QUOTE ]

Where did those numbers come from?? AK (pair of kings) is way ahead of 88 here... Misread the board or did I miss something?
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