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Old 05-14-2007, 05:20 PM
luckybacon luckybacon is offline
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

maybe not out of the small blind
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

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Villain would probably bet 88+ and AJ PF, correct? I know the 4 didnt change a thing. Isnt 56s in his range tho?

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Wow? Even if he does has 56 you need to pay him off. Bet this and call everything. You have a monster.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

The river is very safe and Villain does not appear to have something that beats you (or he would have bet).

I'm having trouble with getting proper value on the river, but for me this is an easy value bet. $45 is good.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

youre overthinking this, value bet river. his range opens up when he checks the turn and if hes not 3 betting much PF as well. he thinks youre on a bluff a lot more now, its profitable to bet river.


also if you cant value bet KK here when the hell can you?
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

I would have 3-streeted this hand for value.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

I guess I totally misjudged this hand. I think I was just seeing monsters under the bed. Thanks for everyone's explanation.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

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what hands do we beat that called a flop and will call this river?

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lol you are at party right?
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

Bet the turn like always. On the river u might as well check and let him bluff or valuebet a Jack.
You look soooo weak here.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

A bet is also good off course, but if he is aggro and floating a check is probably better.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: $100nl, KK overpair, check behind river or valuebet?

you [censored] this hand by checking the turn
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