200NL - tough spot w/combo draw

[orange]

btw, time to go in now, but hopefully isura will respond.

[Isura]

He's 17/11, and that other hand was when villain was IP. But looks like this guy may favor big offsuit trash instead of SCs and stuff. So he can have two pair a lot, so some of our outs aren't clean. Also add in higher FDs. Without the gutshot outs, I honestly don't hate a flop fold. Even now, call is still marginal. If he is bluffing a decent amount, then it sucks because we fold a lot on the turn and don't get paid much either (he'll give up after turn usually if we hit as well)

[cbloom]

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He's 17/11, and that other hand was when villain was IP. But looks like this guy may favor big offsuit trash instead of SCs and stuff. So he can have two pair a lot, so some of our outs aren't clean. Also add in higher FDs. Without the gutshot outs, I honestly don't hate a flop fold. Even now, call is still marginal. If he is bluffing a decent amount, then it sucks because we fold a lot on the turn and don't get paid much either (he'll give up after turn usually if we hit as well)

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The idea is that he looks pretty nitty so he isn't bluffing much, which is what makes it a call. If we was bluffing often it would lean the flop towards a shove.

[Fat Nicky]

thanks for the responses....i just called the flop and BB shoved the turn, I didn't hit so I had to fold.