Preflop is easy, right?

[Buzz-cp]

heads-up

[Xhad]

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trying to get HU from UTG+1 in a game described as loose = -ev imo.

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1 fold
2 call
3-5 game dependent, if you don't expect multiple coldcallers or expect frequent 3betting fold them all
6-7 limp/fold depending on how aggro is aggro
8 complete
9 fold
10 raise
11 raise

[bravos1]

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Kinda loose, kinda aggressive live 9 handed table.

Couple preflop situations for checkup.

1. UTG open limps, you (UTG+1) have A2s
2. UTG open limps, you (UTG+1) have A8s
3. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 99
4. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 88
5. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 77
6. you (UTG) have QJs
7. you (UTG) have JTs
8. 2 mid/late limps, you (SB) have A4o
9. 4 limps, you (SB) have T7o
10. 2 mid/late limps, SB completes, you (BB) have QJs
11. 2 mid/late limps, SB completes, you (BB) have JTs

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any of these at our table or all of them from after you moved?

[Auren]

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3. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 99 3BET
4. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 88 CALL
5. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 77 CALL


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Why play 77, 88 and 99 different way? For every one of those UTG has either 2 over cards or better pair. If game is really loose and you get many callers even with 3 bets shouldn't you just call with all since you playing for trips only? And if it is likely to go heads up with 3 bets shouldn't you raise with all 3?

[aK13]

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Kinda loose, kinda aggressive live 9 handed table.

Couple preflop situations for checkup.

1. UTG open limps, you (UTG+1) have A2s
2. UTG open limps, you (UTG+1) have A8s
3. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 99
4. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 88
5. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 77
6. you (UTG) have QJs
7. you (UTG) have JTs
8. 2 mid/late limps, you (SB) have A4o
9. 4 limps, you (SB) have T7o
10. 2 mid/late limps, SB completes, you (BB) have QJs
11. 2 mid/late limps, SB completes, you (BB) have JTs

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any of these at our table or all of them from after you moved?

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Most of them after I moved.

The only hands I remember playing at that table was AK vs your JJ and AQ vs KK =P.

Couple were from last time.

I ended up dropping my whole buyin /flex.

[Fantam]

1. UTG open limps, you (UTG+1) have A2s
Call. (as long as table has not been too agressive with lots of raises preflop)

2. UTG open limps, you (UTG+1) have A8s
Call. (as above)

3. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 99
If UTG raises loosely, I 3-bet. Otherwise fold.

4. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 88
As above.

5. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 77
Fold.

6. you (UTG) have QJs
Limp if table not too aggressive, otherwise fold.

7. you (UTG) have JTs
As above.

8. 2 mid/late limps, you (SB) have A4o
Complete.

9. 4 limps, you (SB) have T7o
Fold.

10. 2 mid/late limps, SB completes, you (BB) have QJs
Check.

11. 2 mid/late limps, SB completes, you (BB) have JTs
Check.

A lot of the above decisions seem to depend upon table conditions. ie. How likely is it that someone behind me will raise, if I limp from EP.

[aK13]

Guess not so ez since some varying responses =X.

FWIW, I call/check all of them. Wondering what people think.

It's probably loose to around avg 4-5 players a flop, and I'd say there are more limped pots than raised pots, but its not uncommon that someone raises.

I definitely can see arguments for raising JTs and QJs out of the BB.
A2s is marginal EP, so is T7o and A4o completion given the situations, but I think worth discussing.

[Fantam]

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Guess not so ez since some varying responses =X.

FWIW, I call/check all of them. Wondering what people think.

It's probably loose to around avg 4-5 players a flop, and I'd say there are more limped pots than raised pots, but its not uncommon that someone raises.

I definitely can see arguments for raising JTs and QJs out of the BB.
A2s is marginal EP, so is T7o and A4o completion given the situations, but I think worth discussing.

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I wouldnt call the EP raises with 77-99.

I am not sure that you have enough equity to raise JTs or QJs from the BB for value with only a couple of limpers. You are also going to have to play the hands OOP.

I think completing with A4o is ok, assuming that you are going to play well post flop. But T7o just seems a bit too weak to me.

[kerowo]

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Guess not so ez since some varying responses =X.


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There are very few single correct actions in poker. There are just too many variables; table, individual players in the hand, your skill/comfort level pre- and post- flop, stakes, and more. What will be a correct play for you at one set of variables will rarely be correct for me at a different set of variables. Better than trying to memorize a static pf plan you should be looking at some of these variables and trying to understand how that changes what the correct play is.

[arbuthnot]

1. UTG open limps, you (UTG+1) have A2s LIMP
2. UTG open limps, you (UTG+1) have A8s LIMP
3. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 99 FOLD
4. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 88 FOLD
5. UTG open raises, you (UTG+1) have 77 FOLD
6. you (UTG) have QJs LIMP
7. you (UTG) have JTs FOLD
8. 2 mid/late limps, you (SB) have A4o FOLD
9. 4 limps, you (SB) have T7o FOLD
10. 2 mid/late limps, SB completes, you (BB) have QJs CHECK
11. 2 mid/late limps, SB completes, you (BB) have JTs CHECK