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Old 05-11-2007, 05:47 PM
Fubster Fubster is offline
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Default Re: Fast Structured Live SNG\'s with lots of weak opponents

I play the same type of SnG at my local cardroom. They're a complete joke. They're extremely high variance, and it all really boils down to "whoever catches the best cards, wins."
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:44 AM
KrazyKarl KrazyKarl is offline
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Default Re: Fast Structured Live SNG\'s with lots of weak opponents

Thanks for the advice... I will try and take it on board. Winning them early does make a bit of sense...
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Old 05-12-2007, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: Fast Structured Live SNG\'s with lots of weak opponents

You said your problem was that they call too much. If they do then position might be even more important for what cards you want to raise with. You could perhaps raise less out of position and more loose on the button. If the level of play is really bad then it must be possible to beat a rake of 10%. But with payouts for only 1st and 2nd it might take a long time to break even
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Old 05-12-2007, 06:40 AM
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Default Re: Fast Structured Live SNG\'s with lots of weak opponents

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I have been playing at the Pokerdome in Newtown in Sydney for a few months now, and while I'm just below break even for lifetime, it has been frustrating me lately how often I've been getting my money in good and losing in these fast structured sit and go's.

The structure for them is really quite terrible. They are $20 SNG's with 10 people, a starting stack of 2000 and 15 minute levels, top 2 pays. The blinds go as follows:

25/50
50/100
100/200
200/400
300/600
400/800
500/1000
1000/2000... it usually doesn't get past here.

Anyway, I have been using the general sit and go strategy that I hear people talk about everywhere, incredibly tight early, to build up an image for stealing later and so you don't risk your tournament life when you don't have to, and then loosen up as the blinds get big, and I generally play pretty aggressively all the way through.

The problem I have been running into is that if I lose a pot early I'm having to shove preflop by the 100/200 level (if not earlier). And the other problem is that people are calling me weak and sucking out. I know this sounds like a bit of a bad beat story, but there has to be something strategically wrong with my play.

My image NEVER seems to pay off, at least not for more than one or two people at the table. Part of the power of sit and go's is the steals when the blinds are big, I have no trouble online. But playing in these sit and go's it seems I can never push my 5 BB stack into the middle and get everyone to fold, regardless of their holdings.

When I say soft, there are usually a few solid players at each table (2-3), but generally play is poor, 4 to the flop when someone has raised to 400 in the 25/50 level, with initial raiser showing down KK and others having hands like A5 suited, KJ off... and some really passive post flop play from some people.

I generally know where a lot of people are at in a hand (though not all of course), but when I'm card dead, I don't have the chips to do anything about it, and if I think they're bluffing and I play back with 8 high, they'll probably call with their king high anyway.

A lot of Sit and Go strategy seems to be useless here! Its really frustrating me. Can anyone please give me some advice as to how to improve my winning percentage in these sit and go's!

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This soinds like a very +ev situation (10% rake is excellent for a live sng). The variance will be high but that's not necesarily bad if you are suitably bankrolled.

If they are always calling your pushes, then that is very exploitable behaviour. Play around with SNGPT and adjust your pusshing ranges accordingly.
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