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Though spot for Hero. I'm going to say donk the turn, but I doubt that many will agree. Anyway here's why... A check raise doesn't do much here on the flop. He'll most likely only get UTG to fold on a board this coordinated, if the BTN isn't on a complete bluff. (and we don't know that yet) We probably have as quenttrs said 3 outs maybe 4, if we are behind. And maybe even reverse implied odds if we hit two pair. Still, I think folding on the flop in a 10 SB pot for one bet seams weak. By betting the turn the button can define his hand. He'll prob call with his one paired hands maybe dropping tens with a worse kicker, we can call one extra bet from him, and our donkbet should confuse the rest of the players enough not to try a bluff raise. And if they do we probably have enough odds to peal, but we must fold the river UI. If they just call, check the river. If someone bets the river I'd let the rivercard, potodds and position of the better decide if I want to make a crying call or not but mostly I'd fold. [/ QUOTE ] First i like the "c/c flop, donk turn line" you suggested a lot more than the c/r flop line oop. It has some out of the box thinking. But i see this like a blocking bet in no limit. Hero is willing to call the turn, so he bets out to scare away some drawing hands. The backdraw of this line would be a turnraise. I cant find outs to call it. |
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[ QUOTE ] I couldn't ever check/fold this flop. If CO (the pfrsr) had bet this flop, there's a case for taking one off and folding the turn unimproved if he bets again. But he didn't - I'd expect 75-90% of online players to bet here in button's position with any 2 cards they coldcalled with preflop (22+/any board pair/any draw/A-high). Checking and folding to this bet is terrible IMO. Check/call and folding a turn blank is a better option as btn should now (with 3 flop callers) take a free card with his draws, so a bet is more likely to indicate JT is beat. But this line allows button to bet his good hands and take a free card for his draws (possibly as weak as A-high/underpair), so I think the flop raise looks even better. After raising the flop, we can still fold to a flop 3bet & turn bet or a turn raise, and if we reach the river (board as OP), I think we can check and call a single bet. [/ QUOTE ] What is your line for the turn after a flop c/r when at least sb and bu call. Will you lead the turn or c/c, c/f? [/ QUOTE ] bet. The board is extremely drawy and villains will call a lot of crap on the flop. If Hero picks up a draw then b/c. If the turn is a brick then b/f. |
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What is your line for the turn after a flop c/r when at least sb and bu call. Will you lead the turn or c/c, c/f? [/ QUOTE ] I'm always leading the turn after checkraising the flop and just being called. Their call of my flop raise indicates no more strength than their initial bet (btn) & call (SB). Then I'd fold to a turn raise or chk/cll the river. |
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I was at table with OP for this hand, villains tabled 77 and 99... I laugh
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