10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet - Page 2

jimmytrick · #11 05-09-2007, 11:28 AM

I would call here as well.

jhill3535 · #12 05-09-2007, 12:58 PM

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I would have called MP2's raise and folded to a re-raise by MP1.

As played, I agree with Dennisa. I think you have the odds to call this. (Isn't it about 4.2:1 to hit a set by the river with pp?)

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Yes, a good rough estimate to use is 20% by the river.

Landlord79 · #13 05-09-2007, 05:01 PM

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, but is it standard to 4 bet w/ QQ?

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Nobody answered my question yet, is it standard to 4 bet QQ in this spot?

checkmate36 · #14 05-09-2007, 05:09 PM

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is it standard to 4 bet QQ in this spot?

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Im going to go out on a limb and say it depends. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

jhill3535 · #15 05-09-2007, 05:10 PM

Only if you plan on calling a push by one or both players IMO.

edit....nevermind on the second part of what I wrote...

Dennisa · #16 05-10-2007, 01:51 AM

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It just under 4:1 which is what you need to call for set value

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I don't know much about the math... Chance of getting a set on Flop is around 8:1. Chance of hitting a set from PF to River is 4:1?

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4 scard str8's and flushes improve odds by the river. We are all in so we can see 7 cards in this instance.

the_main · #17 05-10-2007, 05:35 AM

if this happened at 200nl i fold.

if i was playing these limits i call in a heartbeat. take it as you will.

Landlord79 · #18 05-10-2007, 05:03 PM

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is it standard to 4 bet QQ in this spot?

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Im going to go out on a limb and say it depends. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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You should have your own Phil Helmuth/ Howard Lederer poker instructional video!!!!

Anybody else wanna take a shot at this 4-bet w/ QQ question?