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Old 05-02-2007, 12:42 AM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: I bomb JJ in blinds preflop and this stupid TAG won\'t fold

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If I had to guess, his most likely hand is 88.


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no way he calls 2 streets on such a drawy board with any hand >= 2pair

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why?

I slowplay on super wet boards all the time

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with sets?

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yessir
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:47 AM
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Fly, HUHHHH ??????? How in the world does he ever have AA/KK with those stats and that play. cbloom, villian like never has 88 here, and probably not QT either based on action. The hands that beat goof atm are 9T, JT, AQ(discounted cuz I think most villians check behind with this hand) and j9(maybe with diamonds ?). I say call.

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carrot,

What you said were exactly my first thoughts about the hand. The thing is I could sort of see him limping w/ AA/KK (unusual, but this is an unusual hand) w/ the intention of raising but then holding back when a nit made a big raise from the BB. Then on the flop, he decided his hand didn't look so hot anymore (vs a nit) and went into check/call mode. On the river, once goofy checks he probably figures he has the best hand and that goofy might try to pick a missed draw off.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: I bomb JJ in blinds preflop and this stupid TAG won\'t fold

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If I had to guess, his most likely hand is 88.


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no way he calls 2 streets on such a drawy board with any hand >= 2pair

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why?

I slowplay on super wet boards all the time

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do you have any idea how much $$ projecting (your traits onto others) will cost you? So many times I've felt that a villain could not possibly have hand X because I could not possibly have hand X (in that spot) only to be shown hand X!!!
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: I bomb JJ in blinds preflop and this stupid TAG won\'t fold

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If I had to guess, his most likely hand is 88.


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no way he calls 2 streets on such a drawy board with any hand >= 2pair

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why?

I slowplay on super wet boards all the time

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do you have any idea how much $$ projecting (your traits onto others) will cost you? So many times I've felt that a villain could not possibly have hand X because I could not possibly have hand X (in that spot) only to be shown hand X!!!

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...what?
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: I bomb JJ in blinds preflop and this stupid TAG won\'t fold

slowplaying very strong hands on very drawy boards is something that the vast majority of TAGS simply don't do, so you shouldn't expect them to do it just because you do it...
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:16 AM
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slowplaying very strong hands on very drawy boards is something that the vast majority of TAGS simply don't do, so you shouldn't expect them to do it just because you do it...

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true, I guess most of them don't.

It is, however a very strong play against better players.

They will never put you on a set because they say "wtf, he would never slowplay a set on such a wet board"
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:38 AM
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fold and move on
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: I bomb JJ in blinds preflop and this stupid TAG won\'t fold

You only have to be good like 30%, it'd be really hard for me to give up such good pot odds when I think he can have lots of missed draws. I think he might call 2/3 pot on the turn with some draws. I'm not in love with the turn bet either. This is a pretty wierd hand.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:48 AM
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fold and move on

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Old 05-02-2007, 03:53 AM
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LOL if you are ahead in this hand
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