Training Iraqi troops no longer driving force in U.S. policy

[Arnfinn Madsen]

This is just completely irresponsible. What is the next president supposed to do? He can't stay, he can't withdraw.

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This is just completely irresponsible. What is the next president supposed to do? He can't stay, he can't withdraw.

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As long as the multinationals are able to pump the oil for free, and the U.S. taxpayer foots all the bills, this is not a problem.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

Some of the oil, I don't know how much, maybe half (offshore) is easy to pump up and sell but for the other half you need some sort of functioning society.

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Some of the oil, I don't know how much, maybe half (offshore) is easy to pump up and sell but for the other half you need some sort of functioning society.

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Halliburton will be glad to provide the society needed, U.S. government already being billed.

[John Kilduff]

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When was training Iraqi troops ever a driving force in U.S. policy? A notion paid lip service to for PR purposes, perhaps, but nothing that was ever a legitimate goal.

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It never was. It is just one of the many excuses thrown out there in order for multinational oil companies to continue stealing Iraqi oil at the US taxpayers expense.

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Would you please explain with how they are stealing oil?

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When was training Iraqi troops ever a driving force in U.S. policy? A notion paid lip service to for PR purposes, perhaps, but nothing that was ever a legitimate goal.

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It never was. It is just one of the many excuses thrown out there in order for multinational oil companies to continue stealing Iraqi oil at the US taxpayers expense.

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Would you please explain with how they are stealing oil?

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Who are they paying? Oil continues to leave Iraq almost without interruption. Do you think the Iraq government which didn't exist at first, and is now in shambles, is monitoring how much is getting pumped?

You realize that the metering devices that regulate how much is loaded into supertankers is not operational? (Haliburton has the contract to fix these meters, but for some strange reason hasn't gotten around to doing it yet for the last two years).

So what ever account you can point to that the oil companies are putting money in to "pay" the Iraqis for the oil, realize they are completely on the "honor" system.

There is no accounting or controls to what is being shipped off, no monitoring of what is being pumped, no way there could be a problem. I have complete trust the oil companies are doing the honest thing.

[Nielsio]

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WASHINGTON - Military planners have abandoned the idea that standing up Iraqi troops will enable American soldiers to start coming home soon and now believe that U.S. troops will have to defeat the insurgents and secure control of troubled provinces.

Training Iraqi troops, which had been the cornerstone of the Bush administration's Iraq policy since 2005, has dropped in priority, officials in Baghdad and Washington said


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But evidence has been building for months that training Iraqi troops is no longer the focus of U.S. policy. Pentagon officials said they know of no new training resources that have been included in U.S. plans to dispatch 28,000 additional troops to Iraq.

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In a reflection of the need for more U.S. troops, the Pentagon decided earlier this month to increase the length of U.S. Army tours in Iraq from 12 to 15 months.

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Looks like we're in this for the long haul.

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Military industrial complex FTW


Worldwide military spending 2005 (in $USD billions)

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[Phil153]

You're a good propagandist, Nielsio. Reminiscent of the communist party back in the day. I always appreciate the creativity and the irony. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BTW, care to adjust that graph for GDP? It'll be far less impressive. For example, when adjusted for GDP Russia comes in at a whopping $900 billion, nearly twice the US. China comes in at $300 billion, not that far behind. And the US is fighting an expensive war.

P.S. Sorry for the hijack, but I couldn't let Nielso's empty propaganda stand.

[Nielsio]

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You're a good propagandist, Nielsio. Reminiscent of the communist party back in the day.

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Yes, arguing against the profits of war from an anarchist and pacifist perspective is just like covering up mass genocide and brainwashing from a police state perspective.



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BTW, care to adjust that graph for GDP? It'll be far less impressive. For example, when adjusted for GDP Russia comes in at a whopping $900 billion, nearly twice the US. China comes in at $300 billion, not that far behind. And the US is fighting an expensive war.

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How is that in any way a rebuttal of MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX FTW.

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How is that in any way a rebuttal of MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX FTW.

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It isn't. He just wants to show how widespread the military-industrial complex is; no country is immune.