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Old 04-25-2007, 11:32 AM
HANABI HANABI is offline
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Default Re: Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

I honestly don't know what I would do in your situation. Part of me says call and part of me says fold.

I think him check minraising both flops doesn't mean the same thing. In hand one you are 100bb deep and in a reraised pot. By making that play he commits you to the pot if you decide to call the flop. Obviously hes just trying to play for stacks with a set.

In hand 2, he's making the same play with much deeper stacks . He knows that you are aware that he did it last time with a set, only this time his minraise doesn't serve the same purpose as in hand 1. It doesn't commit you to the hand, it builds the pot but not large enough for an open push on the turn. So why is he pushing the turn then? The line he took on the flop is supposed to be really strong (he's repping a set) and then he open shoves the turn for more than whats in the pot. That just makes no sense to me, especially from a multitabling TAG. I def don't think he's leveling you and is just angry at losing pots to you all the time. Coupled with the fact that you took forever to call on the flop I think makes this a call.


Also I think the raise preflop was too small. Aba20 can't stress enough about this in his cardrunners NLH videos. You did raise pot but with 200+bb stacks you have to push your preflop equity stronger and cut down on their implied odds, just like you would with a made hand on a the flop against a draw.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

Potting it up in the BB doesn't include the blind you've supplied, so it does mean the raise is a little small.
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

I think he either has you beat with 22 or 66 here or... he smooth call the reraise preflop with KK perhaps, but alot less likely since he didn't reraise the original raiser preflop... so I lean towards 22 or 66 in this pot... will you give us the results then?
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

Disgusting spot, I'm calling.
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

Very interesting hand.

I think it depends on his level of thinking..whether or not he remembers the last hand in which he took the same line with a monster. To me, he overbet shove looking more like an overpair then anything, wanting to protect against overcards.

Again, it really depends on how good villain is. This could be a great line if he has a set and thinks you will put him on an overpair.

I call. Results?!
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

You said he's not very good, so I'll assume he's not leveling you. I fold.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:43 PM
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You said he's not very good, so I'll assume he's not leveling you. I fold.

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Old 04-25-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

Not interesting, your deep, you have one pair, you reraised and we've no idea of your image or much of he's.

If you was one stack deep, i'd call since lots of overpairs we could be vs (JJ for example). He'd also be less worried since he also isnt going to lose more than 1 stack.

Since your so deep, just let it go - Very much looks like a PP, if hes that crap to shove a lower pair on this board then you'll get his cash later.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

FOLD! you can have better spots to put ur money in!
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Since your so deep, just let it go - Very much looks like a PP, if hes that crap to shove a lower pair on this board then you'll get his cash later.

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Old 04-25-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Aces with position, 200 BB deep, and significant background

This is why this forum sucks. It is, in fact, and interesting hand on at least some level. Don't be a dick.
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