I made a deal last night that cost me an arm and a leg...

[bugstud]

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If you are begging, or even prefer to take a 6 or 7 handed deal you shouldn't be playing the tournament.

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I really disagree with this, in large field low-buyin tournies. 10r 55k is a great example.

[NHFunkii]

this post is pretty worthless without chip counts

[wpr101]

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if you could have $450,000 or a 50% shot at $1,000,000 which would you take?

i'd take 450k and i know for a fact that it's "correct" for me

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Right that was what I'm implying basically. The marginal utility of winning a extra couple thousand was not worth it to me.

[wpr101]

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this post is pretty worthless without chip counts

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These were the counts. Although I don't see why it matters to the point of my post being worthless if I didn't include it.


PokerStars Game #9579844507: Tournament #48227537, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (6000/12000) - 2007/04/24 - 03:03:36 (ET)
Table '48227537 53' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: moosetund (439861 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: frottage1 (147202 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: basebaldy (263440 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: wpr101 (372888 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: nanananana (418937 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: poser54 (359672 in chips) is sitting out
moosetund: posts the ante 600
frottage1: posts the ante 600
basebaldy: posts the ante 600
wpr101: posts the ante 600
nanananana: posts the ante 600
poser54: posts the ante 600
poser54: posts small blind 6000
moosetund: posts big blind 12000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wpr101 [2c 9c]
frottage1: folds
basebaldy: folds
wpr101: folds
nanananana: folds
poser54: folds
moosetund collected 15600 from pot
moosetund: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 15600 | Rake 0
Seat 1: moosetund (big blind) collected (15600)
Seat 2: frottage1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: basebaldy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: wpr101 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: nanananana (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: poser54 (small blind) folded before Flop

[wpr101]

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I've made about 10 final tables in the last three weeks, so perhaps I can be of some service.

When we get down to 4-6 handed, I usually offer a chop.

Regardless of chip position, I say "I will take [insert amount of money just slightly less than first place money] and you guys can play for the rest."

They usually decline, but they usually regret it.

With a 4 to 1 chip disadvantage the 109r three weeks ago, I offered to take 20k HU when first was 21,870. My HU opponent LAUGHED at me! How rude! Either way, I went on to show him the sick aejones skillz and prevailed with A4 > AT, then T7o > KJo, and finally, TT > Q5o. This guy cost himself $1,870.

To some, that is a lot of money.

Cliff notes: aejones is sick at final table deals obv.

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This post is awesome on so many levels

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Haha yeah, that was great.

[DLizzle]

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If you are begging, or even prefer to take a 6 or 7 handed deal you shouldn't be playing the tournament.

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I really disagree with this, in large field low-buyin tournies. 10r 55k is a great example.

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I stand by my statement although I'd rather not get into it, but also note that the tournament in question is definitely not a large field low buyin tournament by online standards.

[wpr101]

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If you are begging, or even prefer to take a 6 or 7 handed deal you shouldn't be playing the tournament.

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I really disagree with this, in large field low-buyin tournies. 10r 55k is a great example.

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I stand by my statement although I'd rather not get into it, but also note that the tournament in question is definitely not a large field low buyin tournament by online standards.

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I disagree with you mostly because you are saying that if I put up $162 for a tournament I should be willing to flip a coin for 10k. So if somebody is playing in the sunday million and they reach the final table they should be willing to flip for 70k or else they shouldn't be playing in the tournament at all? In a similar situation I would rather take 32k than flip for 70k if given the option. There has got to be some point for you at which the money matters too much for you. Maybe this low of buyin for you isn't much. For example say a low stakes player posted this about 180 $20 tournament. We would all be saying play for first. But assume his bankroll is only $200 and he played in the tournament just to take a shot. Then it could certainly make sense for him to take a deal with 7 left.

Another point I want to make is that $162 is approximately 1% of my current online bankroll. I don't see why it should be mandatory that I have to play a hand that will either win or lose me more than 50% of the previous amount of my entire bankroll. And so what if I don't want that much variance.

[bugstud]

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If you are begging, or even prefer to take a 6 or 7 handed deal you shouldn't be playing the tournament.

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I really disagree with this, in large field low-buyin tournies. 10r 55k is a great example.

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I stand by my statement although I'd rather not get into it, but also note that the tournament in question is definitely not a large field low buyin tournament by online standards.

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I think it qualifies on 1st place determined by buyins rather than $. Someone playing the 10r on a 5k or 7.5k roll would probably be required to consider deal rather than only get 3k.

[JayTee]

OP,

Here is a good post that Sheets made in a thread about Stealthmunk making the FT of the Stars Sunday Million his bitch.

[LearnedfromTV]

i think the deal is fine; marginal utility, avoiding extreme variance relative to bankroll.