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Old 04-24-2007, 09:19 PM
Guthrie Guthrie is offline
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Default Re: (16) But I have an overpair

I think it's equally likely he's holding 88, 44, 33, A8, AJ+ or two random clubs.
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: (16) But I have an overpair

Raise 10 10 lvl 2 EP? rlly?
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: (16) But I have an overpair

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Raise 10 10 lvl 2 EP? rlly?

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No way. Limp then fold to the pf raise.
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: (16) But I have an overpair

limp or raise is fine it doesn't really matter.
Defintley fold to the first raise.
Checkshove this flop if you want to get all in.
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: (16) But I have an overpair

Limping is fine. I was sort of joking about that part. But I think the rest of the hand is misplayed. Raising PF is fine too.
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:44 PM
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limp or raise is fine it doesn't really matter.
Defintley fold to the first raise.
Checkshove this flop if you want to get all in.

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Old 04-24-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: (16) But I have an overpair

"Checkshove this flop if you want to get all in. "

I agree with this 100%
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: (16) But I have an overpair

16? I don't know why you would ever fold this. You might as well fold preflop if you're not calling.
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: (16) But I have an overpair

yeah I played a ton of the 16s a month ago and folding here is out of the question. You can easily be beating him, though I would've been more likely to check/shove the flop. I like the limp tho for 30 (assuming this is stars) for lvl 2.
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:34 PM
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16? I don't know why you would ever fold this.

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Hold on now. He made a textbook PF raise and is coming over the top of us on a dry board. Just because it's a 16 doesn't make everyone in the game an idiot. I let this go. Better places later to get your money in.

Edit: If you are trying to get it in, I don't think check shove is necessarily better. You have more FE with that, but if he has 2 overs, he has a 3.2 to 1 chance to hit one. You win around %75 of the time, and that's not a place where you want him to fold. If he has a bigger PP, we're screwed any way you look at it.

I know I rehashed several responses, but apparently it bears repeating.
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