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#11
02-16-2006, 07:40 PM
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Re: Roger Clemens sweepstakes
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] houston will be the front runner, but NY and boston can afford to change that with ease. people assume that NY will spend whatever it takes to get roger, but i really doubt that. i am not 100% sure how the luxury tax works, but both NY and Boston will be paying a tax on rogers services. i am pretty sure NY's tax is more than bostons, and boston has a lot more payroll flexabilty. i think this is one instance where boston can outbid NY. however, i am unsure of how deep bostons (or even NY's) interest in him is. i dont trust the press in these (or any) matters. boston acquiring clemens would require additional roster moves (clement/wells) and would put them in a spot where they maty have to take less than equal value in return via trade. this front office doesnt operate like that, so i doubt he ends up here. [/ QUOTE ] The tax is dollar per dollar so each team would have the same tax on Roger, basically it will double his salary. [/ QUOTE ] its not dollar for dollar. NY has been over for 4 straight years, so they pay a 40% tax on every dollar OVER 136.5m this would be bostons 3rd year and put them at 40% over 136.5. right now they are under that number, and can probably stay under that for all of 2006 which further decreases the chance roger goes to boston. now of course, you wont see this in any article written [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] roger costs houston 20m for 2006 roger costs NYY 28m for 2006 roger costs Boston 28m for 2006 [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, as soon as I wrote that I realized I was thinkin about the NBA, figured someone would help me out! 
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#13
02-16-2006, 07:53 PM
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Re: Roger Clemens sweepstakes
regarding the luxury tax and roger:
NY is easily going to be in luxury tax area for the 4th straight time, and it would be impossible for them to get under. boston has been over two years, but like i said will probably be under this year. the CBA is set to expire, so if the red sox can enter the next CBA with a clean slate (you get taxed more based on how many years you were over) and safely under the next threshold, they can spend over the next threshold with no penalty for one year (2007). of course i am just guessing here, but its food for thought.
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#14
02-16-2006, 09:38 PM
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Re: Roger Clemens sweepstakes
My guess is neither Houston, Boston, nor New York will take him. And that RC, who has shown throughout his career only a concern for RC, will want to stay close to home so he can have special rules for himself.
I voted for Texas. I'd put retirement #2.
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#15
02-16-2006, 11:14 PM
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Re: Roger Clemens sweepstakes
I think the outcomes in order of likelyness are:
Retire Houston Yankees Boston Rangers A space means theres a big gap in the chance, ie he is much more likely to go back to the Astros than he is to go to the Yankees, but NYY isn't much more probable than the Sox. It was a tough call to say retirement is more likely, especially given how well he pitched last year, but that is my feeling. If he was only playing home games for the Astros last year it's really hard to see how he's going to leave Texas for the northeast.
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#16
02-16-2006, 11:51 PM
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Re: Roger Clemens sweepstakes
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I voted for Texas. I'd put retirement #2. [/ QUOTE ] Texas isn't really considered a playoff contender. They're only an average team. So, I doubt Roger is going there. I don't think he wants to play for a team unless they have a real shot at the World Series.
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#17
02-17-2006, 02:03 AM
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[ QUOTE ] That's a pretty strange request. It's not like he's a heavyweight boxer taking trauma to the skull. [/ QUOTE ] dude, they are from texas [/ QUOTE ] She must have wanted him to finally stop wasting his time as a baseball player and concerntrate on football.
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#18
02-17-2006, 01:30 PM
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houston will be the front runner, but NY and boston can afford to change that with ease. people assume that NY will spend whatever it takes to get roger, but i really doubt that. boston can outbid NY. however, i am unsure of how deep bostons (or even NY's) interest in him is. boston aquiring clemens would require additional roster moves (clement/wells) and would put them in a spot where they maty have to take less than equal value in return via trade. this front office doesnt operate like that, so i doubt he ends up here. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this post. You say Bos and NY can afford to change the fact that Houston is the front runner "with ease", but then you spend the rest of the post trying to disprove your theory... Wishful thinking turned to start realization?
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#19
02-17-2006, 03:34 PM
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Re: Roger Clemens sweepstakes
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[ QUOTE ] houston will be the front runner, but NY and boston can afford to change that with ease. people assume that NY will spend whatever it takes to get roger, but i really doubt that. boston can outbid NY. however, i am unsure of how deep bostons (or even NY's) interest in him is. boston aquiring clemens would require additional roster moves (clement/wells) and would put them in a spot where they maty have to take less than equal value in return via trade. this front office doesnt operate like that, so i doubt he ends up here. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this post. You say Bos and NY can afford to change the fact that Houston is the front runner "with ease", but then you spend the rest of the post trying to disprove your theory... Wishful thinking turned to start realization? [/ QUOTE ] Not that hard to understand. He thinks that either Boston or NY could have him if they really want him but neither want him that bad.
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#20
02-17-2006, 07:36 PM
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Re: Roger Clemens sweepstakes
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] houston will be the front runner, but NY and boston can afford to change that with ease. people assume that NY will spend whatever it takes to get roger, but i really doubt that. boston can outbid NY. however, i am unsure of how deep bostons (or even NY's) interest in him is. boston aquiring clemens would require additional roster moves (clement/wells) and would put them in a spot where they maty have to take less than equal value in return via trade. this front office doesnt operate like that, so i doubt he ends up here. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this post. You say Bos and NY can afford to change the fact that Houston is the front runner "with ease", but then you spend the rest of the post trying to disprove your theory... Wishful thinking turned to start realization? [/ QUOTE ] Not that hard to understand. He thinks that either Boston or NY could have him if they really want him but neither want him that bad. [/ QUOTE ]
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