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Old 04-23-2007, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: NL200 turned boat and feeling bad about it

Fastplaying is the new slowplaying.
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: NL200 turned boat and feeling bad about it

This is a tough hand. The last min raise is odd enough (and small enough) to make me want to call it and evaluate the river I think. BUt if you say he is very good he's not raising agains with anything you beat.

**Edited out stupid stuff as I misread MP1 and MP2**

Tough hand. Let us know the results.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:00 AM
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I don't see him having 99 here as often, 22 is more likely imo. This could also be some sick bluff. Does he think you can fold a big hand (maybe not a FH, but say A2).
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:46 AM
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No change of villan having TT-AA here? Villan might have checked the flop due to the amount of people in the hand.


EDIT: I see this villan cold called. What about A9?
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:13 AM
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As stated in the fist sentence villain is a very good player, he would bet his decent over pair TT-JJ and A2s if he had, since he would be scared of the flush draw or someone making a better hand then him. And would raise his QQ-AA preflop, if he didnt he would bet the flop 100%. A9 he would not play hard at all and would fold to a 3 bet on the turn since A9 isnt strong at all with these many people seeing the flop.

This hand happend near the end of my bad downswing where everything that could happen wrong did. I would have normally folded this because there is nothing that I beat, and the funny thing is even if I had floped the quads I still would have lost.


Turn: ($21) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $30</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $90</font>, Hero calls $343.95 (All-In), MP2 calls $107 (All-In).

River: ($621.95) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $621.95

Hero has 4c 4s (full house, fours full of nines).
MP2 has 9s 9c (four of a kind, nines).
Outcome: MP2 wins $415. Hero wins $206.95.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: NL200 turned boat and feeling bad about it

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No change of villan having TT-AA here? Villan might have checked the flop due to the amount of people in the hand.
EDIT: I see this villan cold called. What about A9?

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nobody is going to check the flop here with overpairs. there are 5 people in the flop. you're probably drawing dead anyways, and you don't want somebody catching anything on the turn.

i think op actually had the best hand. when op put in the 3rd raise on the turn, villain must know that op either had strong trips, or a boat. as such, he shouldn't have min-raised the last time and should auto push.

if i had 99/22 (played the same), i would not give up so much information on the 4th mini-raise. i would be pushing there.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: NL200 turned boat and feeling bad about it

Yeah, this is a standard cooler. Why do people post these hands?

Also that re-minraise is total waste. Just push. Looks bluffy and may get called by overpair, A2, 92, (misclick pf?).
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:41 AM
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Why is a bluff not ever an option here? I'm dead serious when I say that this is almost exactly the line I take with air if I wanted the pot.
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:00 PM
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Yeah, this is a standard cooler. Why do people post these hands?

[/ QUOTE ]No, it's not. It's an interesting hand for discussion.
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: NL200 turned boat and feeling bad about it

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Yeah, this is a standard cooler. Why do people post these hands?

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It is a cooler but it is not standard, against an ok or [censored] player I would be putting my stack in with no questions what so ever, but this is against a very good regular and I think I can find a fold but was wondering what other people thaught
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