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Old 04-22-2007, 03:36 PM
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Old 04-22-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: A 30r hand by Mikej with an interesting flop decesion

i dont get what the question is?

bet 8k

shove turn

??????
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:07 PM
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crai for sure
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:54 PM
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Will button bet any 2 if you check to him? Then check-raise all-in.

Will button only bet hands that will call if you push? Then push now.

If we don't know what he will do, I would check nearly always, but on the final table bubble I would push to reduce variance.

Later,
Che

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I think an open shove is a bad idea. shoving 35,000 into a 12,000 pot? This is the worst of the options IMO

I prefer a pot size bet and shoving the turn if he flat calls. If he raises then you have the odds to get it in. Which you do.

I could also go for a cr/ai if the button because the pot will then be 17,000 and hero will be raising to 35,000.
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Old 04-22-2007, 09:48 PM
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I think an open shove is a bad idea. shoving 35,000 into a 12,000 pot? This is the worst of the options IMO


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Why?
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: A 30r hand by Mikej with an interesting flop decesion

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This pot is 3-way.. so it's possible for us to c/r and it's also possible for us to get c/red.

This spot sucks. I'm not really happy with any of our options, but I think check/push is best. I'd like to here a nice argument for one play over the other.
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:13 AM
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All,
This pot is 3-way.. so it's possible for us to c/r and it's also possible for us to get c/red.

This spot sucks. I'm not really happy with any of our options, but I think check/push is best. I'd like to here a nice argument for one play over the other.

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So would I, because i really don't know which is best. I really think if we're betting though, its about pot sized.
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Old 04-23-2007, 03:02 PM
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All,
This pot is 3-way.. so it's possible for us to c/r and it's also possible for us to get c/red.

This spot sucks. I'm not really happy with any of our options, but I think check/push is best. I'd like to here a nice argument for one play over the other.

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This is why I don't like checking. CRAI is great if you know button will bet, but I think button checks behind a lot here. I'd rather get the chips in on the flop than get them in after the turn bricks out.

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