New to 2+2

[SomthingOrOther]

also no raise on #2? I have 2 overs and OE st draw? im a fav I thought?


any way i was up agints QQ and KK w/ the 3's so....

[fretelöo]

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I know the FAQ but honestly i dont remember much info about these hands, i just want anyone to point out mistakes if they see them...


sorry...

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obv you missed some crucial parts:

"Before posting, you are strongly encouraged to fully explore the search function. If you have a general question, it likely has been asked and answered already. The majority of posts in this forum are hand posts, where the poster had questions about their play in a specific hand.

By lurking for a bit, you'll quickly observe the common structure of a hand post. A quick summary is to:

* be readable: Make use of a hand converter (external link, be sure to choose 2+2 output format) when possible. If you're having trouble getting a converter to work, that is not an excuse to post a raw hand history. Instead, type out something by hand that resembles a converted hand, even if you don't get all the colors and such the same. Always preview your posts to make sure they look as they should before hitting the final "post" button. It is also recommended that you post only 1 hand per topic.

* provide context: Recreate the hand by providing all relevant information (reads, pot size, action, your thoughts, etc) you had at the time. Often this means you should stop the action at your decision point. Since you did not know what would happen after your decision, neither should anyone else.

* be unbiased: If you ask "When should I have folded this hand?", you'll probably get biased responses since you have revealed that you probably lost the hand. The results generally do not matter and should not be provided in the first post. If you played the hand correctly, the results will eventually take care of themselves. Provide the results when the hand's discussion has reached its conclusion to provide closure for those who helped you out."

[SomthingOrOther]

why is a c-bet a donk move?

[fretelöo]

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im sorry what does it mean to "flop donk?

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Second time:

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Before posting, you are strongly encouraged to fully explore the search function. If you have a general question, it likely has been asked and answered already. The majority of posts in this forum are hand posts, where the poster had questions about their play in a specific hand.
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Look here

[fretelöo]

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also no raise on #2? I have 2 overs and OE st draw? im a fav I thought?


any way i was up agints QQ and KK w/ the 3's so....

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AND THE [censored] THIRD TIME. READ THE FREAKIN' FAQ. No results. They don't matter jack [censored].

How much equity does your draw + OCs have?

[SomthingOrOther]

would you mind posting your graph so i can see an example please.

also ill troll some, sorry for the dumb questions. thanks for putting up with it and not flaming me.

[fretelöo]

My graph doesn't matter. Your's isn't in the negative yet, so it's fine. Your play stagnates because you obv. don't really understand hand value etc.

Grunch a lot, post a few hands and think about them. Read SSHE if you haven't already and think, think, think. Then your graph will likely point upwards again.

[SomthingOrOther]

I dont understand hand value?

I understand when im probly a favorite?

if i have 14 outs im about 49% to win a 4 way pot?

what am i missing here?

[Watkins]

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if i have 14 outs

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List your outs, the reasons they probably aren't all outs and post back your revised number.....

[fretelöo]

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I dont understand hand value?

I understand when im probly a favorite?

if i have 14 outs im about 49% to win a 4 way pot?

what am i missing here?

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What are your 14 outs, pretty please?