The Great Debate: 1 Year On. - Page 2

SEABEAST · #11 04-21-2007, 07:52 AM

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what? I raise with all.

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The Velour Fog · #12 04-21-2007, 07:56 AM

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what? I raise with all.

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john kane · #13 04-21-2007, 08:01 AM

personally i would rather raise K9o than A2-8s.

with K9o you can represent an ace when it flops, or hit Ks or 9s. with A2-8s, you either not getting paid on your ace, flopping a low pair, or hitting a flush come river 1 in 15 times.

just my take.

kotkis · #14 04-21-2007, 09:12 AM

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how is this a great debate? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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It's a well deserved anniversary thread for THE Great Debate post back in the days!

john kane · #15 04-21-2007, 09:42 AM

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It's a well deserved anniversary thread for THE Great Debate post back in the days!

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apparently matusow and negreanu had a fist fight over this debate at a WPT event recently. it really has sent shockwaves throughout the poker community this past year.

seriously though, if you look at the posts on this forum, 95%+ are on postflop theory/strategy. maybe thats becuase a lot of you have already nailed the preflop game, but i find it very easy to drift back to playing tighter during breakeven spells/bad variance, which just compounds the issue.

i dont think its of any coincidence that whenver i play 25-30/18-20 game my win rate is consistently higher than when i play 15-20/10-12.

just i think that ensuring my preflop game is optimal in terms of when to raise is crucial to long term success, especially when to try to raise limpers.

Esuom · #16 04-21-2007, 10:04 AM

i raise them all to 5bb

FBP · #17 04-21-2007, 10:16 AM

I raise them all to 6bb except Axs which i'll overlimp.
Axs gets huge value from flush over flush (and trips top kicker over trips), if you see flop 4+ way, it's not that rare. I feel it's a hand which has more to lose than to gain from raising in position after limpers here.

aislephive · #18 04-21-2007, 10:41 AM

I raise all but occasionally limp behind small suited aces.

Gobgogbog · #19 04-21-2007, 12:01 PM

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i dont think its of any coincidence that whenver i play 25-30/18-20 game my win rate is consistently higher than when i play 15-20/10-12.

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Well, that would make sense if:

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i find it very easy to drift back to playing tighter during breakeven spells/bad variance, which just compounds the issue.

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