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Old 04-19-2007, 09:15 AM
KingOtter KingOtter is offline
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Default Re: TT on BTN, millions limpers

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I'm guessing my image must not be that good, I've been hitting cards lately.
Quite unusual situation with all those limper.

Cash game limit 1/2
I'm sitting in the button with 1010
4 players limp, I should... ?

I'm thinking its instant raise but I'm mostly beat to a high card with all those limper. They probably wont be going anywhere if I raise.
So Should I just call and play for set value only?

I'll give the rest of the hand if I get some responces

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If you call, then yes you're only playing it for set value.

If you raise you might knock out the blinds at least. Then if something like A75 flops it's possible that:
a) it gets checked around to you
b) you know that you're beat by the time it gets to you so you can fold.

If you c-bet people might think 'he's got AQ again' and you might drag it there. Or they call your bet and you know they might have a piece... they check to you again on the turn and you check through. You've seen 5 cards for the price of 2SB pre-flop raise and a SB c-bet post-flop.

If they raise your flop c-bet then you look at pot odds and decide. I might call it and release on the turn.

So when you pre-flop raise you get the opportunity to represent a hand you don't have if you miss the flop and potentially see a lot of cards cheap, whereas if you just call all you got is the set value.

But then as it's been pointed out before, I've never played live, so what do I know.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:59 PM
Sayfur Sayfur is offline
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Default Re: TT on BTN, millions limpers

Thanks for those answer,
As I was saying in OP I was hitting cards so lets see how this develops.

I raised, SB called, BB folded, all limpers called.
Flop 10c-7h-Qh

It was checked to me like you (kingotter) said could happend. So I could check for a 4 flop [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Here I betted b/c I'm with the best hand here alot, SB call and one of the limper only.

A heart fell on the turn. That wasnt fun.
Checked to me again, would you bet here?
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Old 04-19-2007, 03:04 PM
Riku Riku is offline
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Default Re: TT on BTN, millions limpers

You should bet again. You have a really strong hand. There is no reason to believe that some one just made a flush. Even if they did, you have tons of outs to improve to a boat on the river.
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: TT on BTN, millions limpers

grunch...
raise PF. And know when to fold it post-flop. Last night I played with a guy whose TT crashed 3 times. Each time he called to the river with overcards and heavy betting on the flop. Don't be him.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:12 PM
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Raisinbran
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: TT on BTN, millions limpers

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A heart fell on the turn. That wasnt fun.
Checked to me again, would you bet here?

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Uh yah just because a heart is here doesn't mean there's a flush out. Even if there was one, we'd have 10 outs to improve, and we are never folding.
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:17 AM
Christian_Peters Christian_Peters is offline
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Default Re: TT on BTN, millions limpers

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A heart fell on the turn. That wasnt fun.
Checked to me again, would you bet here?

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Uhh, welcome to poker. A set of T's is a very stong hand, even on a 3-flush board.

Checking in this spot shouldn't even cross your mind.

If you get c/r, you call and feel good about it. If you don't fill up on the river, you call 1BB and again you feel good about it.
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Old 04-20-2007, 02:44 AM
Sayfur Sayfur is offline
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Default Re: TT on BTN, millions limpers

I said I wasnt rly happy with it, I raised not asking my self and will end up doing the same thing you talking about Christian. The reason to post is b/c im learning and I was wondering if it was the best move.

BTW, rivered the quad so I bet SB took time to fold and limper called. Will never know what they had.
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