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Old 04-18-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Pocket jacks on wrong monotone board.

whatever betting still gotta be best (i actually like his play with the Qs if he had it) hed probably find a vb with QQ or Kx if u ck the river again anyways.
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Pocket jacks on wrong monotone board.

I'm for betting here too. The pots pretty small for him to be bluffing with here but I agree with him callin w A high a lot here.
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:50 PM
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I just kinda wanna ask people about this hand before the river. Do u always call the flop raise here? How often do u call a bet on blank turn and why or what shifts the decision for u?
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Pocket jacks on wrong monotone board.

Well I think I always call a flop bet here, but thats because I think I call way too many flop raises, especially after I bet originally.
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:57 PM
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No you call the flop bet because villain very likely has As or AT or both or a pp with a spade. Heck, he may have a pp without one. You then call a blank turn because nothing has changed.
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Pocket jacks on wrong monotone board.

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Do u always call the flop raise here?

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I will call unless villain is passive enough to only raise with a K or a flush.

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How often do u call a bet on blank turn and why or what shifts the decision for u?

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If I call flop, I call turn blank. Calling flop and folding turn blank is silly unless you have reads that villain bluff c/r flops and gives up on turns. That is, calling flop and folding blank turn is silly.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:10 PM
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Okay, assuming both flop and blank turn is called, what is the plan for a blank river? Are you calling that too because nothing has changed, or do you give someone credit for betting all three streets?
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:16 AM
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Okay, assuming both flop and blank turn is called, what is the plan for a blank river? Are you calling that too because nothing has changed, or do you give someone credit for betting all three streets?

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Someone betting all three streets doesn't mean that he doesn't have a T or even worse. I still call river. Calling down and then folding to one bet when you have a chance to win a fair size pot is a bad strategy. I think if you don't fold on the flop you got to see showdown when blanks come, otherwise fold the flop.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:41 AM
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Okay, assuming both flop and blank turn is called, what is the plan for a blank river? Are you calling that too because nothing has changed, or do you give someone credit for betting all three streets?

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Not without a very good read
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