UGGGGGGGGGGGGGH PART 2

[hlacheen]

lol holla

[hlacheen]

I shove btw.

[rand]

ha i totally agree with ansky here...i cant really see a competent player taking this line with qq

its gotta be 99, TT, AA, and air
if you dont really have any history i doubt this could be air too much...so yea its ok to fold

fwiw though im a huge tag station so id prolly shove (also i [censored] hate when this happens, past two time bb has cold called my 3bet [i was sb both times] they had AA to stack my kk on an under flop and TT to stack my kk on a T high flop)

[MTBlue]

wtf?

[Zaid_Ahmed]

Heads: Shove
Tails: Shove

rand.....LOL

[spino1i]

I wouldnt fold. QQ/JJ are more likely than AA. TT is a remote possibility as well.

[jambon]

lol think for a couple seconds, and go ARRRRRRRRIIIIINN

[jfish]

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I wouldnt fold. QQ/JJ are more likely than AA. TT is a remote possibility as well.

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do you even try?

[ArturiusX]

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Its either QQ or AA, I think you have to felt it.

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waaaat

how about... you know, 99 and TT?!

both are more likely than QQ

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lol

[billyjex]

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Heads: Shove
Tails: Shove

rand.....LOL

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I don't get what's so LOL about rand's post. People are just not idiots these days, especially someone who is 19/15 over 600 hands. They aren't thinking "omg overpair I raise."

I think most competent people w/ QQ/JJ aren't desperate to get all in on the flop, knowing they are almost always behind if they do.

This is pretty much never a bluff, because it's an absolutely retarded bluff.

The only draw is QJ, and no 19 VPIP calls that.

But what a TAG would cold call here and raise on the flop is a hand like AA/TT. I thought about this one long and hard and used my entire timebank.

People can say this is just a cooler, and uninteresting, but since so many people are basic TAGs these days, there are patterns that develop where you just get the sense you're crushed pretty good. This one is certaintly close because I have a "good" overpair in a reraised pot, but I think it's ok to start making folds like this given the standardness of play.