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Old 04-16-2007, 07:46 AM
Luisgallo Luisgallo is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 - berate me (AK)

I am not doing a mathematically incorrect move hoping that big stack will make it another...
IF it is incorrect to push here because big stack will push 99% i fold unless I am sure 100% he will fold.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 - berate me (AK)

Have you not seen our chipstack? Hello, we need to make a move. AK is a good hand for that.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:59 AM
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Have you not seen our chipstack? Hello, we need to make a move. AK is a good hand for that.

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This logic is very wrong.
You want to make a move when it is EV+ to make it not when you have a decent hand!!!
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:01 AM
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I shove this all day long
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:03 AM
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I shove this all day long

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Can anyone run some numbers please.
I am pretty sure pushing here is not EV+ or best case scenario borderline.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:08 AM
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very easy shove for me too, we got like 3,5 bb and get him dominated very often here and if not we are likely to flip.. easy shove if you play for to win IMHO!
anyway, I often see a guy minraise AA or KK at high blind lategamen to get value, if this is the case, so be it.
suck him out, and type sth like "PURE SKILL" afterwards.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:14 AM
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easy shove if you play for to win

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Well, we don't.

But I shove anyway.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:15 AM
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very easy shove for me too, we got like 3,5 bb and get him dominated very often here, easy shove if you play for to win

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Play to win??
What the hell are you talking about??
Dude this isn't the WSOP, is a STT, if you are off you start a new one!
You want to win? Have an infinitive series of EV+ decisions!
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:16 AM
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easy shove if you play for to win

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Well, we don't.

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what else?
first you play for top3 and afterwards play for the win?
the tutorials i read were all like:
play for the win, it's the winning player's way.
€: proberbly i got a big leak in my general strategy.. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:21 AM
Mingdu Mingdu is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 - berate me (AK)

I guess running the numbers is as easy as putting villian on a range and then adding in our fold equity. (villian is still in 3rd if he folds)
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