50nl minraise to cbet, what's the read?

[Kondzik]

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I think the timing of the move tells you more than the move itself. If they tank it's a monster, if they do it instantly it's more likely to be a bluff/semi bluff.

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[VPIP100]

Timing tells are overrated. This is a fold, you only have 3 clean outs and you are not sure if he stacks off when you hit. So fold.

[TheRenaissance]

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When villain minraises you on coordinated flops like this, what're your reads on villain's possible holdings

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It is a multiway pot. People mess about less in these, and rightly so.
HU it is different, but still without a read or a strong hand(TPTK) I tend to let go. However in general I find that a flop raise means less strength than a turn raise (baluga).

In fact, we could combine all these theorems, and say that a raise signals an average hand strength proportional with street number.



Strength guide
1: Preflop could be wide range of cards
2: Flop could be a draw, air, TP +
3: Turn raise = One pair no good
4: River raise is the nuts

[Chomp]

Good stuff Renaissance, and I think very useful as a rule of thumb to keep your thinking clear at the table.


**Edit to remove me saying a flaot contradicts the theory. This would be wrong as you are talking about a raise on the turn, not a c/b.

[.xxxx.]

The read I've actually started to pick up on is its either a draw or pp lower than TP if you've been agg and cbetting obv flops like this, in this hand it was 77 and I just had that he's trying to shut me down on the turn feeling and should have reraised. Great input throughout, and this gave me another idea for posting hands. I'm going to include what I'm running at along with what they're running at so we can put more of the table influence decision on how the post flop play is going.

[ADK]

easy fold imo.