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Old 04-11-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: All the UB and AP pros are being let go.....no more pro representation

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Hellmuth losing $536,000 to Ivey in one night just became a hell of a lot funnier.

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Not really, he has probably the biggest BR of all tour pro's. Less than Brunson but I think more than Ivey
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: All the UB and AP pros are being let go.....no more pro representa

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No more pro representation for UB or AP.

Ya heard.....from hollaballa.

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Why would both sites drop them at the same time? They are not associated in any way are they?

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They are both owned by the same people, they will eventually merge player bases.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: All the UB and AP pros are being let go.....no more pro representation

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Hellmuth losing $536,000 to Ivey in one night just became a hell of a lot funnier.

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Not really, he has probably the biggest BR of all tour pro's. Less than Brunson but I think more than Ivey

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I highly doubt he has a higher bankroll than Ivey. Ivey is a consistent winner in the high stakes games while Phil wins a tournament every 4 years.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: All the UB and AP pros are being let go.....no more pro representation

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Hellmuth losing $536,000 to Ivey in one night just became a hell of a lot funnier.

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Not really, he has probably the biggest BR of all tour pro's. Less than Brunson but I think more than Ivey

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I know this is NVG and all, but do statements come any more baseless and unreliable than this? I just don't understand what would drive someone to say something that they likely have zero information about.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: All the UB and AP pros are being let go.....no more pro representation

The counter to ivery > Phil is that Phil probably has made more money in side ventures, but thats just the speculative concensus
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: All the UB and AP pros are being let go.....no more pro representa

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No more pro representation for UB or AP.

Ya heard.....from hollaballa.

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Why would both sites drop them at the same time? They are not associated in any way are they?

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They are both owned by the same people, they will eventually merge player bases.

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I didn't know that, are they owned by any known people or just random foreign people living on a beach?


On a separate note, I like the setup of AP waaaaaaaaayy better than UB.
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:04 PM
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What does this mean for UB? Should I be nervous about it's stability?

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I'm wondering the same thing myself. Maybe they are just doing this to prevent arrests of these people at the WSOP. That would be my guess.
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: All the UB and AP pros are being let go.....no more pro representa

Negranu allude to the fact once that these sponsorship deals and endorsements pull in a lot less than most people think.
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:15 PM
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I highly doubt he has a higher bankroll than Ivey. Ivey is a consistent winner in the high stakes games while Phil wins a tournament every 4 years.

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Hellmuth has three bracelets in the last four years, plus the Heads Up title.
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: All the UB and AP pros are being let go.....no more pro representa

Hellmuth seems like he might make more money outside of poker than Phil, but I think it stands to reason that Ivey's winnings over the past few years would be greater. He's taken down a tournament or two himself.

Thinking about the revenue that Phil made from UB or his books/dvds/whatever as "bankroll" is a stretch in the context of this conversation.

Phil isn't just a "pro" for UB though, right, doesn't he own a piece of the company?
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