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Old 04-01-2007, 09:39 PM
BeastBiceps BeastBiceps is offline
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Default Re: $22 AJo Button...Flopped Trips

Given that I played the hand the way I did up until the K of spades on the turn. Does anyone else see a fold to the All-In bet.

I'm getting a little bit better than break even odds to fill up on the river. If I fold, I still have 900 something chips, with blinds at 10/20, gives me an M of 30ish,plenty to play with, so couldn't i find a better spot to put all my chips in the middle??
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:02 PM
starchyy starchyy is offline
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Default Re: $22 AJo Button...Flopped Trips

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Fold preflop.

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I don't know if I would fold pf here. I mean, he's holding a pretty good hand, has position and has a few people calling a weak raise in front of him. I make this call pf pretty often since it will be easy to play post-flop since you get to see all the action.

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AJo is not a pretty good hand. It's a terrible multiway hand. Poker 101: Fold weak aces to raises preflop.

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I play this hand for the positional advantage for the chance to steal all the dead money in there. And if you're always folding AJo on the button to a weak raise like that, your losing alot of value.

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How is 3xBB and 2 calls a weak raise? If you're just playing your position, you might as well do it with any two cards. Seriously, AJo is very weak in this situation and you'll get into a lot of trouble playing multiway pots with hands like this.

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Now that I look this over again, you're right, the raise isn't weak. I read it initally as a 2x BB raise. Thing is, at the 22s, you have alot of people calling this raise in early position with suited connectors. I guess a fold isn't all that bad if it keeps you out of trouble.
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:06 PM
starchyy starchyy is offline
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Default Re: $22 AJo Button...Flopped Trips

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Given that I played the hand the way I did up until the K of spades on the turn. Does anyone else see a fold to the All-In bet.

I'm getting a little bit better than break even odds to fill up on the river. If I fold, I still have 900 something chips, with blinds at 10/20, gives me an M of 30ish,plenty to play with, so couldn't i find a better spot to put all my chips in the middle??

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If you are willing to let that sort of hand go, why not just have folded it pf. If you don't want to put your money in the middle this early with anything short of the nuts, there aren't many flops that connect with AJo better than this one.
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:32 AM
godofPOPOV godofPOPOV is offline
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Default Re: $22 AJo Button...Flopped Trips

if 2 aces are on the board after the flop and one is in your hand its unlikely someone else is holding that last ace...
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: $22 AJo Button...Flopped Trips

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Fold preflop.

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I don't know if I would fold pf here. I mean, he's holding a pretty good hand, has position and has a few people calling a weak raise in front of him. I make this call pf pretty often since it will be easy to play post-flop since you get to see all the action.

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AJo is not a pretty good hand. It's a terrible multiway hand. Poker 101: Fold weak aces to raises preflop.

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I play this hand for the positional advantage for the chance to steal all the dead money in there. And if you're always folding AJo on the button to a weak raise like that, your losing alot of value.

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How is 3xBB and 2 calls a weak raise? If you're just playing your position, you might as well do it with any two cards. Seriously, AJo is very weak in this situation and you'll get into a lot of trouble playing multiway pots with hands like this.

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Now that I look this over again, you're right, the raise isn't weak. I read it initally as a 2x BB raise. Thing is, at the 22s, you have alot of people calling this raise in early position with suited connectors. I guess a fold isn't all that bad if it keeps you out of trouble.

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Suited connectors is a better multiway hand than AJo. Perhaps I'm not stressing this enough. AJo SUCKS here. Big time. Awful. Seriously, folding weak aces to raises preflop is like chapter 1 of every poker book.
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:44 AM
TheFoxNL TheFoxNL is offline
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Default Re: $22 AJo Button...Flopped Trips

just to say it again
*splash only said it like 3 or 4 times*

fold preflop push flop

weaker ace in a multiway pot
youre just asking for trouble
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